Dec 5, 2014, 11:27 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: Changed flight numbers from 137 / 138 to AA 125 / 126 Nov 2016
This thread is for the discussion of upgrades (using systemwide upgrades /SWUs or mileage+ copay) for the DFW-HKG route.
General discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes can be found here: DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Starting Summer 2014 [route discussion]
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
DFW-HKG AA 125 / 126 77W Upgrade Chances & Waitlist Discussion
Dec 20, 2016, 10:49 pm
#2071
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
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Posts: 782
Are there additional taxes on the HKG-DFW when upgrading from Y to J with SWU?
My companion was upgraded with one of my SWUs and no additional taxes were due. I was just upgraded and required to pay additional Hong Kong taxes. Does this seem right? Paid it to secure for now, but odd that it was different between tickets.
My companion was upgraded with one of my SWUs and no additional taxes were due. I was just upgraded and required to pay additional Hong Kong taxes. Does this seem right? Paid it to secure for now, but odd that it was different between tickets.
Dec 20, 2016, 11:18 pm
#2072
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Are there additional taxes on the HKG-DFW when upgrading from Y to J with SWU?
My companion was upgraded with one of my SWUs and no additional taxes were due. I was just upgraded and required to pay additional Hong Kong taxes. Does this seem right? Paid it to secure for now, but odd that it was different between tickets.
My companion was upgraded with one of my SWUs and no additional taxes were due. I was just upgraded and required to pay additional Hong Kong taxes. Does this seem right? Paid it to secure for now, but odd that it was different between tickets.
Dec 20, 2016, 11:54 pm
#2073
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: LAX,BUD
Programs: AA EXP,SPG G
Posts: 249
Dec 21, 2016, 12:18 am
#2074
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
So was my experience departing out of HKG, but my upgrade cleared at the gate. Maybe OP had an issue about a reissuance over the phone(?) and the agent decided to stick with what the systems showed.
Dec 27, 2016, 8:27 am
#2075
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: AA
Posts: 5
Agree, not something to rely on. However, I think this time of year brings some very interesting passenger distributions - if you look at LAX-HKG and DFW-HKG, many days through Xmas and just afterwards are 0'd out (and probably oversold) in coach, but plenty of business seats left. I think these are mainly leisure travelers - minimal corporate travel which is why business is empty. AA's revenue management actively engages in "cabin borrowing" (just like CX) so they will massively oversell economy, borrowing the inventory from business. Given the passenger mix around the holidays, I predict this will lead to an op-up situation for these flights, irrespective of eVIP upgrades. Of course this is unpredictable and shouldn't be relied on, but I think some people are going to get free upgrades from AA for Xmas!
Jan 6, 2017, 1:51 am
#2078
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 121
I flew EWR-HKG via DFW on the 2nd January. Due to weather in Dallas we arrived at the gate for DFW-HKG at 10:37. Departure time was 10:45. The gate was already closed so we had a long rerouting via LAX arriving in HKG 18 hours late. Within a couple of minutes of us arriving at the gate in DFW a huge crowd of people turned up for the same flight. The agent said 60-80 people ended up missing their connection to that flight
What I do not understand is why they did not hold the flight to allow connecting passengers to make it. Surely the cost of rerouting all those passengers must have been huge (we flew CX from LAX) Is there no one at AA who manages this? Surely they can see when the connecting flights are due to arrive and by delaying departure 10 minutes 80% of connecting passengers will make it, saving AA money in reroutes, putting passengers in hotels, compensation etc
The plane didn’t push back from the gate until 10:56 and taking off until 11:17. I just don’t understand AA’s logic here
What I do not understand is why they did not hold the flight to allow connecting passengers to make it. Surely the cost of rerouting all those passengers must have been huge (we flew CX from LAX) Is there no one at AA who manages this? Surely they can see when the connecting flights are due to arrive and by delaying departure 10 minutes 80% of connecting passengers will make it, saving AA money in reroutes, putting passengers in hotels, compensation etc
The plane didn’t push back from the gate until 10:56 and taking off until 11:17. I just don’t understand AA’s logic here
Jan 6, 2017, 4:01 am
#2079
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
I flew EWR-HKG via DFW on the 2nd January. Due to weather in Dallas we arrived at the gate for DFW-HKG at 10:37. Departure time was 10:45. The gate was already closed so we had a long rerouting via LAX arriving in HKG 18 hours late. Within a couple of minutes of us arriving at the gate in DFW a huge crowd of people turned up for the same flight. The agent said 60-80 people ended up missing their connection to that flight
What I do not understand is why they did not hold the flight to allow connecting passengers to make it. Surely the cost of rerouting all those passengers must have been huge (we flew CX from LAX) Is there no one at AA who manages this? Surely they can see when the connecting flights are due to arrive and by delaying departure 10 minutes 80% of connecting passengers will make it, saving AA money in reroutes, putting passengers in hotels, compensation etc
The plane didn’t push back from the gate until 10:56 and taking off until 11:17. I just don’t understand AA’s logic here
What I do not understand is why they did not hold the flight to allow connecting passengers to make it. Surely the cost of rerouting all those passengers must have been huge (we flew CX from LAX) Is there no one at AA who manages this? Surely they can see when the connecting flights are due to arrive and by delaying departure 10 minutes 80% of connecting passengers will make it, saving AA money in reroutes, putting passengers in hotels, compensation etc
The plane didn’t push back from the gate until 10:56 and taking off until 11:17. I just don’t understand AA’s logic here
I may have thought otherwise if I was in your position but the thing that the US3 does right over foreign carriers is the frantic borderline-OCD obsession with pulling flights out on time (whether this really happens, however, is another story.)
Jan 6, 2017, 8:35 am
#2080
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Jan 10, 2017, 7:21 am
#2081
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 7
Odds of Upgrade with No Status
Booking now, what are the odds that I can upgrade given I have no status with AA (oneworld Ruby) on this flight in late March/early April? Anyone have any thoughts as to whether availability would be better on this route or LAX-HKG?
Jan 10, 2017, 7:25 am
#2082
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: WAS
Posts: 1,626
Anecdotally, I think the reports are that it is easier to upgrade on the LAX flight than the DFW flight. Again, purely anecdotal.
Jan 15, 2017, 9:33 pm
#2084
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Jan 15, 2017, 10:13 pm
#2085
Join Date: Dec 2011
Programs: UA
Posts: 384
Agree, although I think people will have a LOT of success with upgrades in the days surrounding January 28 (which is Chinese New Year), as loads are extremely low during this time, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are empty J seats then.