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LAX Secure Connector Terminal 4 <--> Tom Bradley International Terminal
Secure airside passage between Terminal 4 and TBIT opened 25 Feb 2016; T3 access is near Gate 41.

International arrivals security is open now; after dropping baggage off at the recheck facility proceed as if you were going to the curb. Turn right as you approach the exit to signage indicating the 40s gates. The baggage recheck facility and new south terminals bus port - replacing T-4 Gate 44 - are scheduled to open in the future. See page 1 for photos and guidance..

NOTE: LAX / LAWA allows passengers with a same day boarding pass access to any terminal. See Twitter link.

One can now travel between AA Terminal 4 and Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) via the new secure airside connector (two way airside access is here, as arriving international passengers can now clear Security after they process USCBP formalities), and to proceed airside between TBIT, the American Airlines and the legacy US Airways / Alaska terminals without leaving Security via airside.

In T-4, the access to the south terminals airside tunnel is from Gate 44, signposted "Terminal Transfer" (the current bus transfer gate). Take the escalator down to Gate 44, then turn left and take the escalator down towards baggage claim. At the bottom of the escalator make a U turn to the right and enter through the double doors. There is an elevator located to the right of the escalators (inside a little hallway) that will take you directly to the tunnels. Please consult the LAX terminals maps for the location of the tunnel in terminals 5 and 6. (TWA884)

A shuttle bus from ground level near Gate 44 at T-4 and another bus port at T-5 connect to the Remote (American Eagle) terminal, with its own Club.

A walkthrough Youtube video is available at Post #16:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26244110-post16.html

Link to John Nguyen's article on Airline Reporter (with video of T-4 to TBIT walk). "Arguably, the biggest beneficiary to the connector is American Airlines, whose T4 is immediately adjacent to TBIT, and in fact has an agreement with the airport to operate several gates out of TBIT. The connector eliminates the need for passengers on Qantas flights to take a shuttle bus, as the walk from T4 to the TBIT gates should take around 5-10 minutes at a medium pace. In fact, it was measured at just under 4 minutes from Gate 41 to the entrance of the Oneworld First Class Lounge operated by Qantas."

You can now process security at TBIT (assuming you have a mobile or printed boarding pass) and walk to T-4:

See Microwave's post #232 for photos and detailed information.

Originally Posted by Microwave
I just used it departing from Los Angeles on Sunday, so it's definitely accessible from landside for local departures. Check in online or on your mobile so you have your BP to hand when you arrive, then have your driver deposit you on the arrivals level, at the far side of TBIT near the Shuttle Express stand. Go in the sliding doors which lead to the international arrivals area and turn immediately left: voila, the secret checkpoint. Once you clear security, take the lift up to level 5 and you can go either direction to T4 or TBIT; if you head toward the latter, you will be rather conveniently deposited directly at the Qantas First lounge entrance without having to fight any crowds.
This thread is about the airside connection walkway between AA Terminal 4 and the Tom Bradley International Terminal / TBIT. For archived posts made prior to the opening, please see here.

NOTE: LAX TBIT oneworld Premium / oneworld Business lounge and oneworld Qantas First lounge and access rules here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.

NOTE: Shuttle busses connecting Terminal 4 and TBIT are no longer offered, and would take considerably longer than the 4-5 minute walk airside.


The opening date for the airside connector was originally Friday, 4 Dec 2015, March 2016 25 February 2016.

American Airlines has preferential access to four gates at TBIT. Some domestic and international AA flights may depart from TBIT (gates 110-159). Some international AA flights can arrive at TBIT, and occasionally at the remote West 200 jetways to bus islands. Until the airside connector adds security processing for passengers arriving internationally, TBIT to Terminal 4 must be landside. TBIT is now connected airside to the south terminals 4, 6 and 8. TBIT is also connected to north, odd-numbered terminals.

Key components of the project include:
  • A new, behind-the-scene, In-Line Checked-Baggage-Inspection System facility to house new explosive- detection systems. This will enhance security and free up lobby space in T-4 to reduce passenger congestion in the ticketing lobby. (Not open until April 2016.)
    • Secure Passenger Connector between T-4 and TBIT allowing screened passengers to transition between both buildings in both directions without the need for rescreening. (Sic) Now open.
      • Additional Security Screening Checkpoints for arriving international travelers, who have cleared federal immigration and customs inspection and need to catch connecting flights at Terminals 4, 5 6, 7, and 8 on the south side of the LAX Central Terminal Area. (now open)
        • A new South Terminals Passenger Bus Port for travel between TBIT and Terminals 5 through 8.
          • Upper Level World Way Plaza with open and landscaped areas and public seating will replace the open plaza currently on the Lower/ Arrivals Level between TBIT and T-4. Part of the new facility also will be built in this area.
            • A temporary South Interline Baggage Transfer Facility to facilitate checked-bags between TBIT and Terminals 4 through 8 during construction of the new connector building.
              • "According to American, the connector will soon provide a Checked Baggage Inspection System, a five-lane Passenger Security Screening Check Point and a South Matrix Interline Baggage Transfer." - John Nguyen

LAWA news release 18 Mar 2013


Terminal 4 Connector (LAWA)

This $115 million project consists of the design and construction of a multi-use, multi-level facility providing a secure connection between Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) to Terminal 4. Connecting the two terminals will allow passengers easier access to their destination for those needing to reach a connecting flight, with the added convenience of not having to recheck their baggage.

Fact Sheet - Terminal 4 Connector (Link to PDF) says:

This $115 million project consists of the design and construction of a multi-use, multi-level facility providing a secure connection between the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) and Terminal 4. The Terminal 4 Connector will make it easier for passengers to make connecting flights out of different terminals. The new CAL Green Certified space will include a Checked Baggage Inspection System (CBIS), South Matrix Interline Baggage Transfer facility and a five lane Passenger Security Screening Check Point (SSCP). A Passenger Bus Port is also being added for travelers transferring between Terminals 5 through 8 and a Public Plaza will be built for outdoor seating on the upper level.
Link to architectural renderings

LAWA Web Cam Views of the connector: EarthCam Construction Camera - LAX -Los Angeles World Airports

For LAX connections, see: AA Guide to LAX / Los Angeles International Airport, MCT (in use - under construction

See Post #131 for renderings and timetable.


Q. Where do I check in for an AA or Qantas flight?

You can check in at AA Terminal 4 for AA - and there is NO LONGER a Qantas counter in Terminal 4 - you must check I at the Qantas counters in Tom Bradley International Terminal / TBIT.

If checking in with AA but departing from TBIT, you can clear security in Terminal 4 and take the secure airside connector to the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT).

If departing on Legacy US or American Eagle flights, those departing from the 60s gates including 60A-J, you will find it more convenient to check in at Terminal 6.

(For other airlines you may be connecting to, if you haven't been checked in previously you must check in at the TBIT (e.g. Air Fiji, Air Nui, airberlin, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, etc.) or other terminal (e.g. Qatar departs Terminal 2).

Access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016) See here.

Qantas - oneworld First Lounge

Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
    • Departing on a one world flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
      • Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.


one world Business Lounge operated by Qantas (not a QANTAS Club)

Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
    • Departing on a one world flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
      • Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.


Updated 19 Aug 2016 by JDiver

updated Oct 4 2016 by QueenOfCoach to include information about the elevator (lift) taking the passenger to and from the T4 concourse level to the tunnel level
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Old Apr 22, 2016, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by ashill
That's a bit odd. I thought AA was moving most or all wide body ops to TBIT so they can reconfigure the T4 wide body gates to get an extra narrow body hate or two in.
If AA re-activates T4 FIS then I would assume they will funnel the AA passengers from TBIT to use the exclusive T4 FIS.
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Old Apr 22, 2016, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by dgcpaphd
I cannot find anything on this problem in the forums.

AA's website is having problems (again) and I cannot check in on line for my international flight tomorrow.

I have a flight from LAX to LHR. The flight leaves from a different terminal than where AA has its check in and its gates (terminal 4).

I called AA EXP two different times but the answers I got do not seem logical. I was told to go directly to the gate at TBIT (a completely different building from terminal 4).

To my knowledge, AA does not have any check in counters at TBIT.

What about check in and security?

Two AA representatives insisted that I go directly to the gate "because that is what is written in our instructions"

Does anyone out here have actual experience flying AA from LAX but leaving from TBIT instead of from the AA gates?

I assume that I should check in at the AA terminal then walk to TBIT for the security and gate.

Is there TSA precheck at TBIT for AA customers?

My flight is tomorrow. I hope I get lucky with an answer soon. Thanks
Thank god for mobile BP so I don't have to deal with the clueless check in agents at all. Since I don't check bags, sometimes I tell my driver to take me to T7, so they don't have to navigate the traffic jam that is near TBIT and take the shortcut to T7, and since I'll be sitting in my butt all day, it's nice to get a walk in anyways. In that case, I just use pre check security at T7 and then tunnel it over to T4, and then hit up the AC for a good shower before my flight, either T4 or TBIT. Every now and then, a line checker gets confused, and I'm surprised how some have no clue that T8 to TBIT are all connected behind security.

I was once befuddled that an AAgent had no idea the T4-TBIT connector even existed. How do these people even have jobs???
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Old Apr 22, 2016, 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Ready2Go
You don't have to go to T4 at all if you don't need to see an AA TA, use PreCheck, or visit the Admirals Club. But at some times of day TBIT has terrible security lines.
Does anyone have experience with TBIT security at 6:30am? Is it worth the extra walk from T-4 Pre Check if someone is not interested in exercise at that time of day?
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Old Apr 22, 2016, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by pssteve
Does anyone have experience with TBIT security at 6:30am? Is it worth the extra walk from T-4 Pre Check if someone is not interested in exercise at that time of day?
TBIT is at its worst midday when the Asia flights depart and again late afternoon/evening when the Europe flights depart. Mornings are generally calm *but* sometimes there are so few TSA smurfs that the line still backs up.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by matrixwalker2012
I was once befuddled that an AAgent had no idea the T4-TBIT connector even existed. How do these people even have jobs???
When was that? The TBIT connector has only been open for barely two months.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by TWA884
When was that? The TBIT connector has only been open for barely two months.
It was last week, the problem I had was the AAgent was unaware that the connector was even being built. I guess ignorance is pretty expensive...
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by bzcat
If AA re-activates T4 FIS then I would assume they will funnel the AA passengers from TBIT to use the exclusive T4 FIS.
My opinion is no, they will not move passengers from TBIT to T4 FIS (even though they do the vice-versa today). That would require moving baggage AND people unnecessarily (and it has been a very poor experience for a few years now). I think it is possible that they would do T4 arrival then tow the plane to TBIT for departures if they wanted to do TBIT departures, but I doubt that too. Further, I think AA wants to avoid cost/use of the OW TBIT lounge (which would primarily be elites on international routes). After all, there is a FL in T4.

If I read the posts on which flights have been departing from TBIT for AA, I have heard about places like MCO and MIA. I don't know how they choose which flights, but that is why I am very surprised about T4 FIS (in the new HND application).

Old thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-ongoing.html

Summarizing, AA (and its partners like QF) need to move its arrival flights to T4. Don't be surprised if EY moves it flight over too.

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Old Apr 25, 2016, 4:34 am
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Originally Posted by beckoa
In fact that seems to be the only option.

The QF/OW F lounge @ LAX was unable to reprint my BP nor check my docs (left my AS issued one in the LAX BR ) so I got to waltz to the gate last month and wait in the line.

The connector was amazing to use however- was able to stop @ the AA FL in T4 after my flight into T6. ^

Sure beats exiting and waiting for security @ TBIT!
Along this line, if I have a checked baggage from non-interlining airlines like AS to CX, I would have no choice but to pick it up at baggage claim at T6 landslide and recheck it at TBIT, right?
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Old Apr 25, 2016, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by AmexCent
Along this line, if I have a checked baggage from non-interlining airlines like AS to CX, I would have no choice but to pick it up at baggage claim at T6 landslide and recheck it at TBIT, right?
AS and CX do interline. (They're also codeshare and frequent flyer partners.) AS interlines with pretty much everybody. By definition, you can't have a ticket with two airlines who aren't interline partners unless a third airline (which interlines with both) does the ticketing, as far as I know.
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Old Apr 25, 2016, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by rasheed
My opinion is no, they will not move passengers from TBIT to T4 FIS (even though they do the vice-versa today). That would require moving baggage AND people unnecessarily (and it has been a very poor experience for a few years now). I think it is possible that they would do T4 arrival then tow the plane to TBIT for departures if they wanted to do TBIT departures, but I doubt that too. Further, I think AA wants to avoid cost/use of the OW TBIT lounge (which would primarily be elites on international routes). After all, there is a FL in T4.

If I read the posts on which flights have been departing from TBIT for AA, I have heard about places like MCO and MIA. I don't know how they choose which flights, but that is why I am very surprised about T4 FIS (in the new HND application).

Old thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-ongoing.html

Summarizing, AA (and its partners like QF) need to move its arrival flights to T4. Don't be surprised if EY moves it flight over too.

Rasheed
We don't really know what AA is up to with T4 FIS but there is a new luggage facility in the connector building that will handle moving bags from TBIT to T4 and vice versa. It's not that complicated. The whole point of the connector building is so that AA can operate TBIT and T4 as a single terminal (with two concourses). And AA having its own FIS may be part of the long term plan to increase int'l operation at LAX.

If a flight arrives at TBIT east gates, it can be a shorter walk to T4 FIS than TBIT FIS.
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Old Apr 25, 2016, 4:44 pm
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The new FIS won't even matter if they cant get CBP to staff it. That was a big problem before.
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Old Apr 26, 2016, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by pssteve
Does anyone have experience with TBIT security at 6:30am? Is it worth the extra walk from T-4 Pre Check if someone is not interested in exercise at that time of day?
For me, it's a no-brainer to use T-4 Pre Check. Once you're addicted to the speed and efficiency of Pre-Check, you don't go back! Now, I no longer have to unpack my bag, take off my jacket, take off my shoes.

I even fly out of LAX instead of BUR, even though I drive by BUR on the way to LAX because LAX has Pre-Check and much better schedules, and oh yeah, the Admirals Club! My experience at BUR, they gave me the green card, but the stupid security screener said she didn't care and made me take off my shoes, jacket, belt, everything! Gah, hate dealing with those idiots!

Pre Check just feels so civilized, that I would always always always go for the Pre-Check option, even if it means a longer walk to my gate

Plus, if you get to LAX earlier than 630a, T4 is already open, whereas it's hit or miss if TBIT security is open at that hour.
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 9:44 am
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Just walked it this morning. 8 minutes from the AA main hall near Homeboy to ink.sac.

Alas, ink.sac doesn't open until 9. No killer sandwich for me. But The Larder was open.

Food is getting better in T4, but it's still not as good as TBIT.

And I will definitely be using the Pre-check over here if/when I get it on TBIT flights.
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Old Apr 29, 2016, 8:32 pm
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That would be fantastic for my AA SYD-LAX-PHL connection in mid-late June. Here's hoping there aren't going to be any major delays.

EDIT: Just saw the status update as of 2/29 on page 42 from http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...%28Rev0%29.pdf stating the 5/25 date.

Originally Posted by TWA884

The target date for opening the security screening checkpoint in the connector building is May 25.

Last edited by kanny; Apr 29, 2016 at 8:41 pm
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Old Apr 30, 2016, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by ashill
AS and CX do interline. (They're also codeshare and frequent flyer partners.) AS interlines with pretty much everybody. By definition, you can't have a ticket with two airlines who aren't interline partners unless a third airline (which interlines with both) does the ticketing, as far as I know.
Have done this several times AS>CX interline in LAX. Have had zero bag issues, and in fact CX usually retags my bags with the proper priority tags as well in LAX ^.

...but this is drifting a bit from the connector
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