[Rumors] LHR-BDL/CMH; JFK-MAN/DUB/NCE; MIA-FOR/JNB; DFW-MAD
Nov 12, 2008, 4:42 pm
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Sorry to hear 757s will be used across the pond, but everything else sounds mostly positive.
Sorry to hear 757s will be used across the pond, but everything else sounds mostly positive.
Nov 12, 2008, 4:43 pm
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Nov 12, 2008, 4:46 pm
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AA is taking free'd 763s and putting them on MIA-CCS/PAP/PUJ/MGA/GUA/SDQ/GYE/LIM, all once daily except for PAP which is 2x daily.
They'll be great for op-ups for the next three years.
There are no plans to convert the 763s to a high-density configuration until 787 deliveries start.
Nov 12, 2008, 4:56 pm
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Well that, and the low presence of AA in Asia. I understand this is because of the fierce and stiff competition of the West Coast-to-Asia market, but it's still a hassle to connect at HKG or NRT to get to my destinations in Asia using AA or its OW partners. Seeing the load factors on AA's LAX-NRT flight shows that one flight to NRT out of LAX is clearly not enough. Hopefully, they'll bring in one 763 over here for an late LAX departure/early morning NRT arrival flight.
Nov 12, 2008, 5:06 pm
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DTW-LHR, even on a 752, works for me. DTW-MAD would be even more to my liking.
Nov 12, 2008, 5:08 pm
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Surprised to see US-BOM is not on the list!
Welcome to FT! and keep the "rumors" coming.
Nov 12, 2008, 5:22 pm
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Nice post; indeed it does look like a page straight from Jim Whitehurst's playbook at Delta, just several years later.
MIA-REC-JNB is 1.1% longer than non-stop. MIA-LOS-JNB is 4.6% longer than non-stop.
Lagos is the preferred point, but dealing with Nigerian aviation authorities is a pain, and gaining fifth freedom on Lagos-Johannesburg (which could be important for cargo revenue) is far from guaranteed. The U.S. and Nigeria might have "Open Skies," but Nigeria doesn't really listen.
Another idea being tossed around is operating via Recife, Brazil; and merging Salvador with the new Fortaleza route (assuming AA gets Fortaleza traffic rights). If you look at a map, Recife is actually directly along the path of MIA-JNB and would be quicker than via West Africa. U.S.-Brazil air treaty allows for Brazil-South Africa fifth freedom.
Another idea being tossed around is operating via Recife, Brazil; and merging Salvador with the new Fortaleza route (assuming AA gets Fortaleza traffic rights). If you look at a map, Recife is actually directly along the path of MIA-JNB and would be quicker than via West Africa. U.S.-Brazil air treaty allows for Brazil-South Africa fifth freedom.
Nov 12, 2008, 5:25 pm
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From your observation we know nothing about AA's profitability on the route, only its capability to sell fares low enough to ensure that no seat remains unsold.
Nov 12, 2008, 5:38 pm
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LAX-JFK-DUB would be a HELL of a lot more preferable than LAX-ORD-DUB.
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Nov 12, 2008, 6:06 pm
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Dallas-Madrid:
This looks like a good possibility summer 2009, 763 service. Only new widebody Europe route seriously planned for summer 2009. Madrid will arguably become the most important oneWorld connecting hub in Europe when the joint venture is in full swing, even more so than Heathrow.
This looks like a good possibility summer 2009, 763 service. Only new widebody Europe route seriously planned for summer 2009. Madrid will arguably become the most important oneWorld connecting hub in Europe when the joint venture is in full swing, even more so than Heathrow.
Nov 12, 2008, 6:09 pm
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Another LAX-NRT? No chance in heck. LAX-CDG? Forget it. DFW-MAD? Eventually. More flights to South America but not from California? Certainly. More flights to Europe on a 757 but not from California? Certainly.
Nov 12, 2008, 6:12 pm
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Nov 12, 2008, 6:15 pm
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I didn't get that either. I suppose its because JFK-DUB is shorter and you have the chance to spend more time on a larger plane (LAX-JFK). Myself, I would never connect through JFK or MIA unless forced to. ORD is way better for connections.
Nov 12, 2008, 6:18 pm
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Rumors
I realize this is mostly rumors at the moment, but if these new JFK/BOS-DUB flights start up, in addition to the existing ORD-DUB service, would AA open a lounge in DUB? Every time I fly out of DUB it amazes me how there is no OW lounge since Irish Lingus left it. I guess I'm asking what is the critical mass AA needs to open up their own lounge abroad?
Thanks,
Styles2375
Thanks,
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