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Old Jun 11, 08, 4:42 pm
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FA's 'RESIGN' ID attachments

On my last few flights, I have noticed some AA FA's with a 'resign' sticker underneath their nametags/Airline ID tags. What does it mean?

I frankly get a little annoyed when FA's, pilots need to make a labor/union statement infront of me. Those gripes can be taken up with their bosses and I don't need to be apart of it(but maybe this has nothing to do with that)
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Old Jun 11, 08, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by bmxbboy View Post
On my last few flights, I have noticed some AA FA's with a 'resign' sticker underneath their nametags/Airline ID tags. What does it mean?

I frankly get a little annoyed when FA's, pilots need to make a labor/union statement infront of me. Those gripes can be taken up with their bosses and I don't need to be apart of it(but maybe this has nothing to do with that)
Here, here - it just makes the flight uncomfortable. Also, if they are so miserable, they can quit. If you're at a restaurant and the waitress is whining over her low pay, we say get another job. I don't see why they have the throw a pity party all the time. If you've been receiving pay cuts for the past 10 years, guess what you're getting next Christmas? Another pay cut. You like the perks that's why you stick with the job. As travellers, we like the perks that's why we stick with the airline.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 5:18 pm
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It is indeed a union protest.

Official press release about this campaign (from April) here.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 6:28 pm
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I'm always tempted to say "Well, why don't you?" But I don't want them to spit in my Coke.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by bmxbboy View Post
On my last few flights, I have noticed some AA FA's with a 'resign' sticker underneath their nametags/Airline ID tags. What does it mean?

I frankly get a little annoyed when FA's, pilots need to make a labor/union statement infront of me. Those gripes can be taken up with their bosses and I don't need to be apart of it(but maybe this has nothing to do with that)
CEOs and other execs who are too dimwitted, shortsighted, greedy, whatever to keep the company from hemorrhaging money should not get million dollar bonuses, end of story. Consumers should know this information, if not for anything other than to be aware of the corporate value system of their carrier-of-choice. If the customer feels compelled to poo-poo the FAs for expressing their Constitutionally-given right to express free speech in an airplane, then so be it.

The pins are a way to open dialogue, and I for one cannot understand why the Fox-CNN-MSNBC-mentality of "I-Scream-You-Scream-If-You-Don't-Like-The-Country-Then-Leave" is so pervasive and normative in our culture today. Good for him or her to express their views!

If the execs are so worried about the bottom line of AA, then perhaps they could forfeit their "bonuses," and the union employees make some concessions as well. That's how compromises happen...
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Old Jun 11, 08, 6:42 pm
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What a wrong time to be stupid. While I think its a shame to have paycuts, fighting over it now is a deadend. AMR will go bankrupt and fire all of them, and reimmerge with willing FAs that are non-union and work for 1/3 less and are happy about it.

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Old Jun 11, 08, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by martinp13 View Post
I'm always tempted to say "Well, why don't you?" But I don't want them to spit in my Coke.
It's AA - they won't spit in your coke, they will just start screaming hysterically 'Air Marshal! Air Marshal! We're being attacked!'

Frankly, if I was the CEO of a company whose front-line employees were wearing such stickers, I would be showing them the door. There are plenty of experienced new hires who will be looking for work from other airlines over the next few months.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 6:52 pm
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Thanks for the information.

My entire point was not about the protest but how they are doing it. I am choosing to fly AA - not be involved in a political debate. The plane is a private space owned by AA (or the bank!) and not a public space for union politics. I hope they could find other ways to express their concerns about AA's finances.

I want to sit back, relax and enjoy my flight - I don't want to be forced to learn about union politics of flight attendant gripes.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 7:59 pm
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I'm definitely not a union supporter - you can search my previous posts and see that; however I'm perfectly fine with them expressing their opinion on their badges if they like.

I did, however, find it within me to ask one of them why they don't just quit and go to another airline. The response: "They're even worse at other airlines..."

I dunno, I probably wouldn't be carping about being at the top of the food chain in my chosen career path. If I was unhappy with it, I'd be looking for a different line of work.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 8:12 pm
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I dunno either. I guess my personal data point was talking with a nice FA on a recent ORD-SEA flight who had been recalled (12 years with TWA) from a furlough that had lasted for ~7 years IIRC, and whose last job before returning to AA was as a checkout person at Lowe's. She was happy to be flying, even if it was on MD-80s instead of front cabin on TWA longhauls. She was plenty nervous about the schedule cuts coming; she didn't want to go back to the lumber department.
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While I agree with a poster here about short sighted execs and when they don't relinquish bonuses but continue to make cuts to staff - I do agree with the OP - take your union complaint to your union don't wear it like body armour on your job tisk tisk - but also my business side says any FA making mega bucks and according to a yahoo news story there are those making 80K and over the 100K mark then IMHO your salary is not justified with the work effort involved at that rate. Others will disagree and flame but I'd be willing to pay FAs a premium for their safety training but it's still a glorified food server hence the wage should match.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 8:16 pm
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While I agree with a poster here about short sighted execs and when they don't relinquish bonuses but continue to make cuts to staff - I do agree with the OP - take your union complaint to your union don't wear it like body armour on your job tisk tisk - but also my business side says any FA making mega bucks and according to a yahoo news story there are those making 80K and over the 100K mark then IMHO your salary is not justified with the work effort involved at that rate. Others will disagree and flame but I'd be willing to pay FAs a premium for their safety training but it's still a glorified food server hence the wage should match.
What food?
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Old Jun 11, 08, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bmxbboy View Post
My entire point was not about the protest but how they are doing it. I am choosing to fly AA - not be involved in a political debate. The plane is a private space owned by AA (or the bank!) and not a public space for union politics. I hope they could find other ways to express their concerns about AA's finances.

I want to sit back, relax and enjoy my flight - I don't want to be forced to learn about union politics of flight attendant gripes.
I enjoy talking union politics with the crews, but I do agree that it can be unpleasant to deal with political debates in-flight. For example, I find the veneration (via IFE and in the in-flight magazines and Skymall) of consumerism and the general support of a "big business" economy unpleasant. But there it is up on the screen, or in the magazine. Whether an FA has a pin on his or her shirt, the presence of political opinions in the cabin is not really escapable.

That said, I pretty much just ignore it--much easier than taping over the monitors.
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Old Jun 11, 08, 8:50 pm
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I think they'd be more effective to go to the shareholders and work to get the directors to hold the executive accountable for corporate irresponsibilities.
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