Why don't F passengers 'button' their napkins?
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Why don't F passengers 'button' their napkins?
I realize that this topic is incredibly unimportant in the scale of life’s concerns. That said, I have rarely observed passengers in F using the button part of the napkin. And, of course, there are times when the opening is sewed shut, thusly rendering the button part useless.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Do you, the people who fly F much more than I, think that part of the reason that passengers don’t ‘button’ is that it makes them feel like children? If not, what’s your theory?
The only improvement I can see is if they made the napkin of 100% cotton as opposed to the polyester scratchy product it is now.
Thanks for your thoughts.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Do you, the people who fly F much more than I, think that part of the reason that passengers don’t ‘button’ is that it makes them feel like children? If not, what’s your theory?
The only improvement I can see is if they made the napkin of 100% cotton as opposed to the polyester scratchy product it is now.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by uncle wiggily
I realize that this topic is incredibly unimportant in the scale of life’s concerns. That said, I have rarely observed passengers in F using the button part of the napkin. And, of course, there are times when the opening is sewed shut, thusly rendering the button part useless.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Do you, the people who fly F much more than I, think that part of the reason that passengers don’t ‘button’ is that it makes them feel like children? If not, what’s your theory?
The only improvement I can see is if they made the napkin of 100% cotton as opposed to the polyester scratchy product it is now.
Thanks for your thoughts.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Do you, the people who fly F much more than I, think that part of the reason that passengers don’t ‘button’ is that it makes them feel like children? If not, what’s your theory?
The only improvement I can see is if they made the napkin of 100% cotton as opposed to the polyester scratchy product it is now.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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I always button my napkin to my shirt. I'd rather look silly on the plane and arrive with a clean shirt than to spend the day looking silly with a soiled shirt.
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I always use the button in the napkin as well, and have noticed that I'm usually the only one. I really like that they put those holes there. I'm sure I've saved quite a few shirts by using it.
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I've always used the button hole. But then what does this topic have to do with earning AA Miles?
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My seatmate did this the other day. He was somewhat older than me; I had never seen someone do this on the plane; I thought it was old school. I was aware of the button hole, knew it's purpose, but I had never seen someone take AAdvantage of the button hole.
I am MUCH more concerned about the pants. The seating configuration is not ideal and is worsened by a-holes in front of me not putting their chairs forward during the meal. I place my napkin on the sliding tray table, extend it to my person and place it onto my belly. It makes a U-shaped catchers mitt for the food that doesn't seem to stay on the plastic ware. The consistency of the AA food is very hit-or-miss, and I would hate to have a limp vegetable fall off the utensil and into my lap.
That being said, I can’t remember any food landing on the napkin. I guess it’s just some strange phobia I have. Nobody wants a bite from a messy southwestern omelet to end up splattered on their pants.
Sam
I am MUCH more concerned about the pants. The seating configuration is not ideal and is worsened by a-holes in front of me not putting their chairs forward during the meal. I place my napkin on the sliding tray table, extend it to my person and place it onto my belly. It makes a U-shaped catchers mitt for the food that doesn't seem to stay on the plastic ware. The consistency of the AA food is very hit-or-miss, and I would hate to have a limp vegetable fall off the utensil and into my lap.
That being said, I can’t remember any food landing on the napkin. I guess it’s just some strange phobia I have. Nobody wants a bite from a messy southwestern omelet to end up splattered on their pants.
Sam
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I do much the same thing, Sam - DFW!
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I also think that a lot of flyers do not realize it is there and/or do not know what it is.
That said, I don't use them because I tend to be very careful in an airplane when I eat and tend to lean toward the plate as opposed to having the food pass over my clothing. Better safe than sorry.
That said, I don't use them because I tend to be very careful in an airplane when I eat and tend to lean toward the plate as opposed to having the food pass over my clothing. Better safe than sorry.
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Originally Posted by uncle wiggily
I realize that this topic is incredibly unimportant in the scale of life’s concerns. That said, I have rarely observed passengers in F using the button part of the napkin. And, of course, there are times when the opening is sewed shut, thusly rendering the button part useless.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Thanks for your thoughts.
But I seem to be the only passenger buttoning the top of my shirt, thusly avoiding ruining the shirt.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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I didn't even know about the button, though I rarely eat on the plane, even if I am in F. Thanks for the tip though!
Obligatory '80s quote...
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I always button up. One of the posters is correct that this is against "land etiquette". However, I make an exception when aloft because even the upright seating position in F makes it difficult to get that forward incline that would make the chest placement of the napkin necessary.
I have noticed that many flyers want to do this but are embarrassed. Quite often I travel in F from DFW to LGW on business and I normally am the first one to do it. However, more than once, I have seen other flyers see me do it and follow. I guess when they see a mid 30s man dressed in a suit and sitting in F doing it, they dont feel so foolish...
I have noticed that many flyers want to do this but are embarrassed. Quite often I travel in F from DFW to LGW on business and I normally am the first one to do it. However, more than once, I have seen other flyers see me do it and follow. I guess when they see a mid 30s man dressed in a suit and sitting in F doing it, they dont feel so foolish...
Last edited by panjabi; May 30, 2005 at 11:31 pm
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I always do this... I find it strangely gratifying. In fact, I had the pleasure several years ago of instructing an unaccompanied minor, who the FA had placed next to me to keep an eye on, in the correct procedure. I would like to think that he still remembers the protocol.
Are there any other locales where one can encounter these napkins with buttonholes?
Are there any other locales where one can encounter these napkins with buttonholes?
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I never do it , nor have any desire to do so; the etiquette ( as mentioned ) is for napkins to go on a lap and I have buttoning it onto a shirt as much a faux pas as sending back gazpacho soup for being cold
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I always do it. I never see anyone else do it. Perhaps we should form a club?