Possible for AA to give you EQM without Flying?
Sep 26, 2014, 10:34 am
#16
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Two years ago I had an intra-Texas flight that was cancelled. There was severe weather and no other options for a return to Dallas on that same day. I decided to keep my rental car and just drive home. AA cancelled the flight, refunded the appropriate amount for the leg, and I received EQM and EQP for the leg as if I actually flew it. I am EXP and explained that I needed it for re-qualification.
Sep 26, 2014, 10:39 am
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Two years ago I had an intra-Texas flight that was cancelled. There was severe weather and no other options for a return to Dallas on that same day. I decided to keep my rental car and just drive home. AA cancelled the flight, refunded the appropriate amount for the leg, and I received EQM and EQP for the leg as if I actually flew it. I am EXP and explained that I needed it for re-qualification.
That was then, this is now.
In your case, AA cancelled your flight. In this instance, the cancellation resulted in a shorter and actually more convenient trip (eliminating the redundant LAX-DFE-SMF segments).
Sep 26, 2014, 4:14 pm
#18
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Not saying that will definitely work. One problem is if the original flights no longer exist in the schedule there is not straightforward way to give you credit for them.
Sep 29, 2014, 8:43 am
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Sep 29, 2014, 4:29 pm
#20
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I don't understand why AA would not give ORC for the PVG-DFW-LAX-SMF being changed to PVG-LAX-SMF. I would imagine you will have pretty good luck getting Original Routing Credit for that. As soon as you finish traveling call and ask for ORC, explain to them that due to an involuntary routing change you ended up with fewer miles than your original routing would have given you. You may have to HUCA, but I think you have a good chance of getting them to give you the ORC.
Sep 29, 2014, 7:10 pm
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I don't understand why AA would not give ORC for the PVG-DFW-LAX-SMF being changed to PVG-LAX-SMF. I would imagine you will have pretty good luck getting Original Routing Credit for that. As soon as you finish traveling call and ask for ORC, explain to them that due to an involuntary routing change you ended up with fewer miles than your original routing would have given you. You may have to HUCA, but I think you have a good chance of getting them to give you the ORC.
Sep 29, 2014, 10:12 pm
#22
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I just don't know WHY they wouldn't allow you to receive ORC for this situation. I haven't seen anybody say why this situation is different either. There may very well be a reason/policy in place, I just don't know of it.
Sep 30, 2014, 4:10 am
#23
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Any reason why not contacting AA and mention this to them. At least there will be a notation that due to this change, you will be xxx miles short of EXP, that will work in your favor. In the end, how many miles will you need for EXP, and that is not including those 2k miles you got in error that you mentioned on a previous thread. That's about 3.5k miles.
Sep 30, 2014, 4:33 am
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Does anyone know non-anecdotally which is the "right" way to request ORC?
Sep 30, 2014, 5:05 am
#25
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Years ago AA used to call travelers and offer the opportunity to change their flight to a more direct route for $49, I used to get those calls a lot, as I would travel ORD-DFW/LAX-SJU and they would change it ORD-SJU direct, I always responded no thanks, doing it for the miles. I have not heard much about this happening for the past couple of years.
Sep 30, 2014, 12:12 pm
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Years ago AA used to call travelers and offer the opportunity to change their flight to a more direct route for $49, I used to get those calls a lot, as I would travel ORD-DFW/LAX-SJU and they would change it ORD-SJU direct, I always responded no thanks, doing it for the miles. I have not heard much about this happening for the past couple of years.
I got one of those calls now and then, usually to switch an SFO-LAX-JFK to direct routing.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:12 pm
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Over the years here, I've seen both kinds of advice, which are conflicting (ask before travel versus ask after travel). Usually those who say "ask before travel" also state that it's really important to have the request noted in the PNR before travel, suggesting that without such a pre-existing notation, the ORC request will be denied.
Does anyone know non-anecdotally which is the "right" way to request ORC?
Does anyone know non-anecdotally which is the "right" way to request ORC?
Oct 2, 2014, 8:22 am
#28
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Re-routing in advance usually doesn't result in ORC. However AA will be flexible in that you could have requested an extra segment like LAX-DFW-SMF, instead of the LAX-SMF. You could have said I was planning to and would still like to meet with a friend or a family member during my connection at DFW and that is why I booked the itinerary through DFW in the first place. I try to meet up with a friend for a drink or dinner at DFW if I have a long connection, so this is true for me.
If AA re-routed you on the day of travel due to mechanical or other delays, getting an ORC is typically not a problem.
If AA re-routed you on the day of travel due to mechanical or other delays, getting an ORC is typically not a problem.
Oct 2, 2014, 1:14 pm
#29
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I have only gotten ORC, and only 1 time. I had a flight from GRR-ORD-STL that was snowed out, and I was scheduled to be back in GRR before they could get me on a plane to STL. They begrudgingly gave me ORC for both legs I didn't fly and told me it was a 1 time thing.
I can't imagine with the time out you have that you will get approved for something like that.
I can't imagine with the time out you have that you will get approved for something like that.