JFK, EWR, LGA co-terminals - No longer able to switch airports on an award ticket?
Aug 15, 2014, 8:53 pm
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US Airways (US) does not permit inter airport transfers/connections at NYC or WAS. An error of: "CONNECTION SUPPRESSED BETWEEN XXX" is returned when pricing, verifying connecting time or ending a PNR.
Aug 15, 2014, 9:04 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: JFK/US-US]
Code:
DD DI ID II
STANDARD: JFK 060 075 130 120
EXCEPTIONS:
A/L FLT-NBR DEPARR AREA EFF / DISC
US JFK SUP --- --- ---
US EWR
-ALL- JFK SUP --- --- ---
US EWR
US JFK SUP --- --- ---
US LGA
-ALL- JFK SUP --- --- ---
US LGA
US 0001-0399 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 0900-1699 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 2200-2499 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 2500-2674 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 2975-3199 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 3525-3699 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 4400-4499 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 8000-8799 DFW --- 038 --- ---
US 7640-7689 HEL
US 0001-9999 CA SUP SUP SUP SUP
US 0001-9999 CA
US 0001-9999 MX --- --- --- SUP
US 0001-9999 MX
US 0001-4799 DUB 045 045 --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 0001-4799 DUB 045 045 --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 8000-8799 DUB 045 045 --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 8000-8799 DUB 045 045 --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 0001-0399 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 0001-4799 CA 045 045 --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 0001-4799 CA 045 045 --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 0900-1699 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 2200-2499 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 2500-2674 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 2975-3199 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 3525-3699 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 4400-4499 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 8000-8799 CA 045 045 --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 8000-8799 CA --- 045 --- ---
US 7640-7689
US 8000-8799 CA 045 045 --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 0001-0399 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 0900-1699 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 2200-2499 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 2500-2674 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 2975-3199 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 3525-3699 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 4400-4499 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 0001-0399
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 0900-1699
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2200-2499
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2500-2674
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2975-3199
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 3525-3699
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 4400-4499
US 7840-7879 01JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 8000-8799
US 8000-8799 01JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 7840-7879
US 0001-0399 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 0900-1699 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 2200-2499 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 2500-2674 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 2975-3199 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 3525-3699 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 4400-4499 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 0001-0399
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 0900-1699
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2200-2499
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2500-2674
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 2975-3199
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 3525-3699
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 4400-4499
US 5000-5039 /31JUL14 --- --- SUP SUP
US 8000-8799
US 8000-8799 /31JUL14 --- SUP --- SUP
US 5000-5039
US 0001-0399 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 0001-0399 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-0399
US 0001-4799 --- 040 075 075
US 0001-4799
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 0900-1699
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 2200-2499
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 2500-2674
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 2975-3199
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 3525-3699
US 0001-4799 035 --- --- ---
US 4400-4499
US 0001-4799 --- 090 --- ---
US 4800-7999
US 0001-4799 --- 120 --- 120
US 7010-7584
US 0001-4799 --- 040 --- 075
US 7640-7689
US 0001-4799 035 040 075 075
US 8000-8799
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 0400-0899
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 1700-2199
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 2675-2974
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 3200-3499
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 3500-3524
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 3700-4399
US 0400-0899 025 --- --- ---
US 4500-4799
US 0900-1699 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 0900-1699 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 0400-0899
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 1700-2199
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 2675-2974
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 3200-3499
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 3500-3524
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 3700-4399
US 1700-2199 025 --- --- ---
US 4500-4799
US 2200-2499 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 2200-2499 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 2500-2674 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 2500-2674 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 0400-0899
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 1700-2199
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 2675-2974
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 3200-3499
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 3500-3524
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 3700-4399
US 2675-2974 025 --- --- ---
US 4500-4799
US 2975-3199 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 2975-3199 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 0400-0899
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 1700-2199
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 2675-2974
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 3200-3499
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 3700-4399
US 3200-3499 025 --- --- ---
US 4500-4799
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 0400-0899
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 1700-2199
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 2675-2974
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 3500-3524
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 3700-4399
US 3500-3524 025 --- --- ---
US 4500-4799
US 3525-3699 035 --- --- ---
US 0001-4799
US 3525-3699 035 --- --- ---
US 8000-8799
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[DD] Domestic To Domestic [DEP] Departure Airport
[DI] Domestic To Intl [ARR] Arrival Airport
[ID] Intl To Domestic [A/L] Airline
[II] Intl To Intl [TR] Terminal
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft [EFF] Effective Date
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft [SUP] Suppressed/Prohibited
Aug 15, 2014, 9:11 pm
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Aug 15, 2014, 9:18 pm
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Checking on EF, it is only Domestic to Domestic connections which are suppressed in NYC and WAS. I-D,D-I and I-I are all permitted
Aug 15, 2014, 9:23 pm
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Well, then hopefully AAgents won't take their reference material too literally since that's not mentioned, only mentioned is:
And was "maintained" yesterday.
But obviously the file I linked to before in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23241164-post19.html
must control both, where AA aligned to US's policy on this.
US Airways (US) does not permit inter airport transfers/connections at NYC or WAS
But obviously the file I linked to before in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23241164-post19.html
must control both, where AA aligned to US's policy on this.
Aug 15, 2014, 9:38 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: JFK]
Code:
** EXCEPTIONS EXIST **
DD DI ID II
STANDARD: JFK 060 075 130 120
INTER-AIRPORT: EWR TO JFK 180 180 210 210
JFK TO EWR 180 180 210 210
JFK TO JRB 240 240 240 ---
JFK TO LGA 120 150 150 180
JFK TO TSS 180 240 240 ---
JRB TO JFK 180 240 240 ---
LGA TO JFK 120 120 180 180
TSS TO JFK 240 240 240 ---
---------------------------------------------------------------
[DD] Domestic To Domestic [DEP] Departure Airport
[DI] Domestic To Intl [ARR] Arrival Airport
[ID] Intl To Domestic [A/L] Airline
[II] Intl To Intl [TR] Terminal
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft [EFF] Effective Date
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft [SUP] Suppressed/Prohibited
Aug 15, 2014, 9:45 pm
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As an example, US 45 (CDG-JFK) connecting to US 2158 (LGA-BOS) is not Suppressed and would fall under the Standard Inter-Airport MCT:
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: JFK]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: JFK]
Code:
** EXCEPTIONS EXIST **
DD DI ID II
STANDARD: JFK 060 075 130 120
INTER-AIRPORT: EWR TO JFK 180 180 210 210
JFK TO EWR 180 180 210 210
JFK TO JRB 240 240 240 ---
JFK TO LGA 120 150 150 180
JFK TO TSS 180 240 240 ---
JRB TO JFK 180 240 240 ---
LGA TO JFK 120 120 180 180
TSS TO JFK 240 240 240 ---
---------------------------------------------------------------
[DD] Domestic To Domestic [DEP] Departure Airport
[DI] Domestic To Intl [ARR] Arrival Airport
[ID] Intl To Domestic [A/L] Airline
[II] Intl To Intl [TR] Terminal
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft [EFF] Effective Date
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft [SUP] Suppressed/Prohibited
Aug 16, 2014, 9:00 am
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Forgot if I posted this before, but this will/could also add to some confusion as even allowed connections might, at first, produce an error:
Sabre/AACoRN will incorrectly price as 2 awards for co-terminals not in the same city (i.e. between LGA and EWR). Must call RSD to override.