Suggestions wanted on potential [AUS-BOM] travel
Jun 3, 2014, 1:06 pm
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: AUS
Programs: AA-PLAT, Hilton-Gold, Marriott-PLT
Posts: 85
I am sorry dear fellow FTers but I'm no longer surprised at how visceral responses are. Does anyone bother to run a quick search to realize how bad the connecting timings are and how long going through HKG makes one's journey?
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
Furthermore, take a look at pricing. The AUS - LHR - BOM r/t can generally be purchased in BA's WTP (World Traveler Plus) for LESS than economy going via DFW. Tell your employer that you're saving him/her money and you want to be in WTP.
But hey, I'm the weirdo on FT. I'd rather fly SFO - ORD non-stop and spend two more hours with my family than do SFO - DFW - ORD to earn a few more miles. I realize the OP is EXP and that at least gives some shot of using the SWU. I'm not EXP so perhaps my perspective on this is skewed. For anyone who isn't EXP, there is 0 reason to fly via HKG in this situation.
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
Furthermore, take a look at pricing. The AUS - LHR - BOM r/t can generally be purchased in BA's WTP (World Traveler Plus) for LESS than economy going via DFW. Tell your employer that you're saving him/her money and you want to be in WTP.
But hey, I'm the weirdo on FT. I'd rather fly SFO - ORD non-stop and spend two more hours with my family than do SFO - DFW - ORD to earn a few more miles. I realize the OP is EXP and that at least gives some shot of using the SWU. I'm not EXP so perhaps my perspective on this is skewed. For anyone who isn't EXP, there is 0 reason to fly via HKG in this situation.
Jun 3, 2014, 1:49 pm
#17
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: AUS
Programs: AA Exec Platinum/MM, DL Gold/MM, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 7,013
I am sorry dear fellow FTers but I'm no longer surprised at how visceral responses are. Does anyone bother to run a quick search to realize how bad the connecting timings are and how long going through HKG makes one's journey?
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
But hey, I'm the weirdo on FT. I'd rather fly SFO - ORD non-stop and spend two more hours with my family than do SFO - DFW - ORD to earn a few more miles. I realize the OP is EXP and that at least gives some shot of using the SWU. I'm not EXP so perhaps my perspective on this is skewed. For anyone who isn't EXP, there is 0 reason to fly via HKG in this situation.
Jun 3, 2014, 4:32 pm
#18
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SIN, PIE
Programs: AA-EXP, SQ-PPS, Marriott PP
Posts: 210
Never tried it but isn't upgrading the BA legs with AA miles an option?
https://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-...servations.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-...servations.jsp
Jun 3, 2014, 4:41 pm
#19
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: AUS
Programs: AA-PLAT, Hilton-Gold, Marriott-PLT
Posts: 85
Never tried it but isn't upgrading the BA legs with AA miles an option?
https://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-...servations.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-...servations.jsp
Jun 3, 2014, 5:14 pm
#20
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MSY
Programs: AA Plat Pro, UA Plat, VS Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,532
20k SPG = 25K BA. Can only upgrade one cabin (including WTP), but can upgrade from discount WTP fare to business.
Y, B or W. 12.5 k for W to biz, 25k for Y/B to biz.
Y, B or W. 12.5 k for W to biz, 25k for Y/B to biz.
Jun 4, 2014, 8:12 am
#21
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW-In Plano & CDG-In the 11th
Programs: DL Diamond, AA revenue negative, Bonvoy Titanium +, Avis likes me
Posts: 3,213
I am sorry dear fellow FTers but I'm no longer surprised at how visceral responses are. Does anyone bother to run a quick search to realize how bad the connecting timings are and how long going through HKG makes one's journey?
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
Furthermore, take a look at pricing. The AUS - LHR - BOM r/t can generally be purchased in BA's WTP (World Traveler Plus) for LESS than economy going via DFW. Tell your employer that you're saving him/her money and you want to be in WTP.
But hey, I'm the weirdo on FT. I'd rather fly SFO - ORD non-stop and spend two more hours with my family than do SFO - DFW - ORD to earn a few more miles. I realize the OP is EXP and that at least gives some shot of using the SWU. I'm not EXP so perhaps my perspective on this is skewed. For anyone who isn't EXP, there is 0 reason to fly via HKG in this situation.
I realize that "flying less" isn't really the mantra on FT, but for people not on the West Coast, flying to India TPAC is much longer than flying TATL.
Why spend more hours of your life in a plane, especially in economy, if you don't have to?
AUS - LHR - BOM: 8,984 miles
(19h 40m outbound, 24h 15m return)
Leave at 6:20 PM- get in a full day of work
Return at 4:05 PM
AUS - DFW - LHR - BOM: 9,402 miles
(24h 35m outbound, 24h 20m return)
Leave at 1:15 PM - half day of work
Return at 4:10 PM
AUS - DFW - HKG - BOM: 10,971 miles
(26h 25m outbound, 28h 20m return)
Leave at 11 AM - wasted day
Return at 7 PM
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AUS+-+D...US+-+DFW+-+BOM
So do you want to waste 11 hours of your life just in case a SWU clears and pray your employer lets you book on all AA ticket stock so you get 100% mileage on the CX HKG-BOM-HKG sectors or do you want to fly at better times, be guaranteed 100% mileage, and have 11 hours more to do things you care about?
Furthermore, take a look at pricing. The AUS - LHR - BOM r/t can generally be purchased in BA's WTP (World Traveler Plus) for LESS than economy going via DFW. Tell your employer that you're saving him/her money and you want to be in WTP.
But hey, I'm the weirdo on FT. I'd rather fly SFO - ORD non-stop and spend two more hours with my family than do SFO - DFW - ORD to earn a few more miles. I realize the OP is EXP and that at least gives some shot of using the SWU. I'm not EXP so perhaps my perspective on this is skewed. For anyone who isn't EXP, there is 0 reason to fly via HKG in this situation.
I, too, have had to make similar decisions. And perhaps I may have a little/alot more control over my business, family, and lifestyle demands. But, its my time. And I will determine what is a waste of my time (& $) and what is not, just as you do. Based on those decisions, and because I DETEST Heathrow and prefer AA metal, in this instance, I personally would look 1st at HKG. That's not to say I wouldn't go DFW-LHR-BOM if I had to, but I would certainly look at ALL my other options first!
Sidebar-when I go to Europe, I fly to CDG or MAD, and take either AF, IB, or the train. UK (EDI), I go to CDG and take AF or a LCC. Maybe I'm the weirdo.
Last edited by Dallas49er; Jun 4, 2014 at 11:03 am
Jun 4, 2014, 10:31 am
#22
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: AA SPG Amex
Posts: 4,644
If OP were to connect via NRT, what would it likely cost (and is it even possible) to upgrade NRT-BOM on JL to PE?