View Poll Results: My opinion of the announced AA - US merger is:
This is the best of all possible worlds; great idea!
33
3.93%
This portends a stronger airline, with some changes for all
192
22.88%
I am neutral - pros and cons for all
199
23.72%
I think this is a somewhat bad idea with some real challenges
226
26.94%
I am completely opposed to this merger; terrible idea!
189
22.53%
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AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated)
Apr 16, 2013, 11:55 pm
#1052
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP,2MM, DL Gold,Starwood PLT
Posts: 3,876
Apr 17, 2013, 9:05 am
#1054
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,442
The deal is subject to approval by US shareholders. Almost all shares are in public hands (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=LCC+Major+Holders). In theory they could vote against the deal, but I haven't seen any indication of shareholder opposition.
May 6, 2013, 10:56 pm
#1055
Moderator: Alaska Mileage Plan
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,333
American Airlines and US Airways expect to announce the senior executives of their combined company within a few weeks.
CEOs of the airlines said Monday that an announcement could be coming in late May or early June.
[...]
In a message to employees of both airlines Monday, the CEOs said that executives reporting directly to Parker will be named by early June with the rest of officers to follow.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/leader...011019592.html
CEOs of the airlines said Monday that an announcement could be coming in late May or early June.
[...]
In a message to employees of both airlines Monday, the CEOs said that executives reporting directly to Parker will be named by early June with the rest of officers to follow.
May 7, 2013, 7:35 am
#1056
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,510
The deal is subject to approval by US shareholders. Almost all shares are in public hands (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=LCC+Major+Holders). In theory they could vote against the deal, but I haven't seen any indication of shareholder opposition.
May 8, 2013, 12:47 am
#1057
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Primary: Its largest airport was named for a World War II hero; its second largest, for a World War II battle., Secondary: 88NV via RNO
Programs: Hilton Diamond*, UA ex-2P, Chase
Posts: 354
As a decade long 1k and 2m miler on United I can only say: American... Here's your best chance. Come and get us. I've never seen so many discontented, disappointed and angry 1k's! We're ripe for the taking. I can't speak for the Continental folks but, wow, has the new United ever stuck it to us. The Mileage Plus program is rife with errors and omissions and if you call they act like you are trying to cheat them. Upgrades have gone away as they are glad to put me in a middle back seat if they can squeeze 75 bucks from someone. In sum, the new United has dumped us and they don't mind rubbing it in. They may get their 75 bucks but I have lost any consideration of loyalty, as have they. They may have their 75 bucks but I bought the last $1250 ticket on Delta, where I am a million miler and Silver for life. No different than being a 1k on United. So, marketing people.... Here's your chance.
Next is on AA (ORD-AUS).
May 8, 2013, 10:22 pm
#1058
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
May as well not concentrate on earning miles with so little flying.
May 9, 2013, 7:18 am
#1059
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,264
It's time for the "I hope the merger falls thru" crowd to give it up. It's a certainty at this point. There are minor things left to change/adjust like gate give concessions but it's something that crowd (I am apart of that crowd myself) has to deal with and move on.
While I personally don't care for it, It's time to move forward and see what happens. It's not like AA is the only airline left to fly if things go south. We can hope, using Parkers' comments as some indication, that they saw what happened with the UA merger and will avoid those mistakes.
In addition, I think the "I hate the new livery" Crowd needs to give it up as well. Based on the new planes showing up with it and the rumored information that US planes were being painted with it, I think that ship has sailed.
While I personally don't care for it, It's time to move forward and see what happens. It's not like AA is the only airline left to fly if things go south. We can hope, using Parkers' comments as some indication, that they saw what happened with the UA merger and will avoid those mistakes.
In addition, I think the "I hate the new livery" Crowd needs to give it up as well. Based on the new planes showing up with it and the rumored information that US planes were being painted with it, I think that ship has sailed.
May 9, 2013, 9:53 am
#1060
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin,TX (AUS)
Programs: AA, UA
Posts: 767
I'm not a fan of this merger either, but it's a done deal unless the DOJ blocks the merger which is unlikely.
Parker is saying the right things, but as we all saw in previous mergers, there is a difference between what the management promises and what actually happens. I'm guessing this merger will be similar to the US Airways/America West merger. But only time will tell.
I'm staying with AA for now, but depending on how far AA falls, I may consider switching airlines.
Parker is saying the right things, but as we all saw in previous mergers, there is a difference between what the management promises and what actually happens. I'm guessing this merger will be similar to the US Airways/America West merger. But only time will tell.
I'm staying with AA for now, but depending on how far AA falls, I may consider switching airlines.
May 9, 2013, 10:48 am
#1061
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
The new livery? I wouldn't bet serious money on Horton's choice remaining. When it debuted, articles in the media said that paint to the customer's spec is included in the contract purchase price of new planes - and those 500+ new planes on the way will represent at least half of the painting. Parker estimated the integration costs of this merger at perhaps $1.2 billion. Re-painting a few dozen planes at $100k a pop isn't going to deter Parker from choosing a new livery if he's not enamoured with Horton's choice.
Rumours that US is painting its planes in Horton's livery? I'm skeptical. Link?
May 9, 2013, 11:15 am
#1062
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,510
The merger will happen. No question about that. It's a done deal waiting for some government-mandated slot/route divestitures. Antitrust authorities have to do something to give the appearance that they're protecting consumers, but the merger will happen.
The new livery? I wouldn't bet serious money on Horton's choice remaining. When it debuted, articles in the media said that paint to the customer's spec is included in the contract purchase price of new planes - and those 500+ new planes on the way will represent at least half of the painting. Parker estimated the integration costs of this merger at perhaps $1.2 billion. Re-painting a few dozen planes at $100k a pop isn't going to deter Parker from choosing a new livery if he's not enamoured with Horton's choice.
Rumours that US is painting its planes in Horton's livery? I'm skeptical. Link?
The new livery? I wouldn't bet serious money on Horton's choice remaining. When it debuted, articles in the media said that paint to the customer's spec is included in the contract purchase price of new planes - and those 500+ new planes on the way will represent at least half of the painting. Parker estimated the integration costs of this merger at perhaps $1.2 billion. Re-painting a few dozen planes at $100k a pop isn't going to deter Parker from choosing a new livery if he's not enamoured with Horton's choice.
Rumours that US is painting its planes in Horton's livery? I'm skeptical. Link?
May 9, 2013, 11:19 am
#1063
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Horton's livery? You make it sound like he sketched it on a cocktail napkin one night after having a few too many. Based on the on board promos, AMR spent BIG BUCKS on rebranding, involving internal and external talent, new logos and livery are just one part of that effort. I could see some tweaking the tail design a bit as a part of the merger, but not much else.
And, I don't really like the tail either...
May 9, 2013, 11:24 am
#1064
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
Horton's livery? You make it sound like he sketched it on a cocktail napkin one night after having a few too many. Based on the on board promos, AMR spent BIG BUCKS on rebranding, involving internal and external talent, new logos and livery are just one part of that effort. I could see some tweaking the tail design a bit as a part of the merger, but not much else.
May 9, 2013, 12:07 pm
#1065
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
I don't spend too much time in the AA forum, this has probably already been posted:
Why American Airlines Employees Loathe Management
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardf...he-management/
All past history (some is recent past), consolidated in a fairly damning way...
Why American Airlines Employees Loathe Management
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardf...he-management/
All past history (some is recent past), consolidated in a fairly damning way...