Recline Seat for Nine Hours?
Oct 8, 2011, 1:41 pm
#61
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+1, absolutely. I am 6'3''. I usually try to fly business. I buy comfort seats. I prebook exit rows. But sometimes it happens and I am in coach.
If this happens, buying a second seat would be useless (I am not WIDE, I am LONG), so what I can do is suffer. And ask, gently, to a fellow passenger if he would be so kind as to avoid to recline completely.
If this happens, buying a second seat would be useless (I am not WIDE, I am LONG), so what I can do is suffer. And ask, gently, to a fellow passenger if he would be so kind as to avoid to recline completely.
)Flying economy is uncomfortable if tall, but that isn't the concern of the other passengers and height is one reason why I only fly economy on short flights
Oct 8, 2011, 1:46 pm
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Use of knee-defender has got to be among the most uncivil, passive-aggressive, self-important, to-hell-with-everyone-else, and selfish things an airline passenger could do to his fellow economy-class travelers.
And while I actually would NOT judge someone for using it automatically (not knowing their personal circumstances or condition-- mental or physical) for someone who uses it to brand OTHER people selfish, judgmental and uncourteous is absolutely hilarious!
And while I actually would NOT judge someone for using it automatically (not knowing their personal circumstances or condition-- mental or physical) for someone who uses it to brand OTHER people selfish, judgmental and uncourteous is absolutely hilarious!
Oct 8, 2011, 1:47 pm
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A++++++++++ for your comment...if you are that disabled, then you should have a disabled card and ask for disabled seating......Clipper 110a is the epitome of entitlement syndrome going around!
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Oct 8, 2011, 1:54 pm
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Use of knee-defender has got to be among the most uncivil, passive-aggressive, self-important, to-hell-with-everyone-else, and selfish things an airline passenger could do to his fellow economy-class travelers.
And while I actually would NOT judge someone for using it automatically (not knowing their personal circumstances or condition-- mental or physical) for someone who uses it to brand OTHER people selfish, judgmental and uncourteous is absolutely hilarious!
And while I actually would NOT judge someone for using it automatically (not knowing their personal circumstances or condition-- mental or physical) for someone who uses it to brand OTHER people selfish, judgmental and uncourteous is absolutely hilarious!
Oct 8, 2011, 2:05 pm
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Your rudeness , by using such a prohibited device, is to attempt to stop someone reclining regardless of how fast or slow they recline their seat
Oct 8, 2011, 2:08 pm
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In fact, OP here has come around a bit and is showing a lot of class, wisdom and maturity in seeing that things need to be seen as a big picture and from the perspective of all parties in a given situation. You might try the same.
Oct 8, 2011, 2:20 pm
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No one here advocated that in any way at any time NOR did the OP say that's what he experienced at all- a totally fraudulent distraction to bring that up, when no one in their right mind would excuse that - 'pushing hard on the seat in to a very tall person and crushing their knees on purpose'
In fact, OP here has come around a bit and is showing a lot of class, wisdom and maturity in seeing that things need to be seen as a big picture and from the perspective of all parties in a given situation. You might try the same.
In fact, OP here has come around a bit and is showing a lot of class, wisdom and maturity in seeing that things need to be seen as a big picture and from the perspective of all parties in a given situation. You might try the same.
I am talking of personal experience.
I do not care what people write on this thread.
I see the rudeness out there first hand.
I have to look no further than the comments posted here--
"the seat is able to recline so it is my right"
"Maybe he should pay people to change seats"
Do you people read what you write?
Then you have the nerve to tell me that?
I am polite in my travel but I take care of myself.
If I am assigned a seat that I did not want because of a flight cancellation I use the knee defender.
Oct 8, 2011, 2:21 pm
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I purchased the knee defender for these odd flight cancellations because some people like to see how fast they can recline the seat and see how hard they can push back at the same time.
Yes I am depriving these morons the chance to crush my knees, but I am not going to wait to see if I happen to luck out and the person in front of me will recline slowly and gracefully.
Yes I am depriving these morons the chance to crush my knees, but I am not going to wait to see if I happen to luck out and the person in front of me will recline slowly and gracefully.
I've had the recline on my seat blocked in the past, and it can take a frustrating while to figure out the cause.
Since then, I've made a point of confirming (before pushing from the gate) that my seat reclines. If it mysteriously doesn't recline later, I'm prepared for the potential conflict. And that had better be the person that gets the "write-up"
I agree that the run of the mill economy seat brings out the t-rex arms trying to work on the computer, so I've given up trying in those situations. It's not justification for saying the person in front of me can't recline.
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Oct 8, 2011, 2:22 pm
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Oct 8, 2011, 2:30 pm
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I have in the past been placed on flights where there were no first class seats available because of a flight cancellation.
I purchased the knee defender for these odd flight cancellations because some people like to see how fast they can recline the seat and see how hard they can push back at the same time.
Yes I am depriving these morons the chance to crush my knees, but I am not going to wait to see if I happen to luck out and the person in front of me will recline slowly and gracefully.
I purchased the knee defender for these odd flight cancellations because some people like to see how fast they can recline the seat and see how hard they can push back at the same time.
Yes I am depriving these morons the chance to crush my knees, but I am not going to wait to see if I happen to luck out and the person in front of me will recline slowly and gracefully.
My advice to you: be careful with your Knee Defenders. They are banned by a number of airlines, including AA. And if I find someone using them to try to stop me from enjoying the recline that I paid for, they will NOT be happy with what happens next.
Oct 8, 2011, 2:35 pm
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Wow. So because you couldn't buy a seat in F, you think you have the right to steal something that someone else paid for. Interesting.
My advice to you: be careful with your Knee Defenders. They are banned by a number of airlines, including AA. And if I find someone using them to try to stop me from enjoying the recline that I paid for, they will NOT be happy with what happens next.
My advice to you: be careful with your Knee Defenders. They are banned by a number of airlines, including AA. And if I find someone using them to try to stop me from enjoying the recline that I paid for, they will NOT be happy with what happens next.
You ever realize that the reason I need the room is I am twice your size.
I do not consider preventing someone from reclining and crushing my knees "stealing" as you put it.
When you recline in to my knees you are in effect taking my space away from me.
It is not your right to see how far back the seat will go at the expense of someone sitting behind you.
That is what everyone here does not seem to realize.
That space first and foremost belongs to the person sitting there.
If you can recline without interfering that is one thing.
But if you feel their knees in your back and think that by reclining hard and fast is a solution and your right than we disagree.
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Oct 8, 2011, 2:39 pm
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+1 on that. It takes a secure person to realize they need a perspective change, and all of us need them from time to time. When you're "in the moment", things always seem worse than they probably are. That's what's great about sharing your experiences publicly with others - you expose yourself to seeing things from another perspective. ^
Oct 8, 2011, 2:40 pm
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+1 on that. It takes a secure person to realize they need a perspective change, and all of us need them from time to time. When you're "in the moment", things always seem worse than they probably are. That's what's great about sharing your experiences publicly with others - you expose yourself to seeing things from another perspective. ^