Feb 13, 2020, 8:18 pm
Last edit by: eponymous_coward
Alaska joined oneworld on March 31, 2021. https://blog.alaskaair.com/destinati...nce-countdown/
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
- Alaska Airlines intends to join the oneworld® alliance, the world's fastest growing and most highly rated global airline alliance, by summer 2021, which will connect Alaska guests to more than 1,200 destinations worldwide.
- American will launch the first service from Seattle (SEA) to Bangalore, India (BLR) beginning October 2020. A new American route from SEA to the global business hub London Heathrow (LHR) will begin flying in March 2021.
- The airlines will continue their domestic codeshare that offers customers hassle-free booking and travel between the two networks. The codeshare will expand to include international routes from Los Angeles (LAX) and SEA.
- Alaska and American loyalty members will enjoy benefits across both airlines, including the ability to earn and use miles on both airlines’ full networks, elite status reciprocity and lounge access to nearly 50 American Admirals Club lounges worldwide and seven Alaska Lounges in the U.S.
- For MVP Golds and Gold 75Ks, you will be able to access more than 650 international business class lounges within the oneworld member airline network when flying on an international ticket on an itinerary outside of North America. Source
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Alaska Joined oneworld (3/31/2021)
Feb 13, 2020, 8:58 am
#61
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:00 am
#62
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SEA, SFO, formerly ANC
Programs: AS 1MM/MVPG, AS Lounge, DL SkyClub (Life), Hertz 5* -- AA, DL, UA
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"Effective Immediately: Access any of American’s 50 Admirals Club locations worldwide with an Alaska Lounge membership. "
I'll test this on Sat. at SFO. Hope to report good news.
Overall, an interesting development - something needed to be done.
I'll test this on Sat. at SFO. Hope to report good news.
Overall, an interesting development - something needed to be done.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:05 am
#63
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Out of SEA not a big deal, out of SFO bigger, out of LAX probably biggest deal. That being said you’ll actually have a route network that isn’t West Coast based (and let’s be clear, AA’s route network smokes B6 for everywhere save JFK/BOS if we’re dong a merger counterfactual for the 289696478th time- for the middle of the country it’s not even close).
Feb 13, 2020, 9:07 am
#64
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From the email:
Safe to assume these will be RDMs only? Or can we now get EQMs on AA flights?
Starting Spring 2020:
Earn Alaska Mileage Plan miles on any American Airlines flights, domestically and internationally.
Earn Alaska Mileage Plan miles on any American Airlines flights, domestically and internationally.
Safe to assume these will be RDMs only? Or can we now get EQMs on AA flights?
Feb 13, 2020, 9:12 am
#65
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 621
Is the 25%/50%/75% earning for some of the economy buckets applicable to EQM earning as well, or only RDMs?
Feb 13, 2020, 9:14 am
#66
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
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As a LT AA PLT based in SAN, I see lots of upside - particularly if AA-AS offer reciprocal elite benefits at some point. I have been using AA to fill holes in the AS network, so the ability to earn MP miles on AA flights will all but guarantee making MVPG annually, but also put MVPG75k in reach - with the ability to fall back on AA LT PLT when I don't (Back to the Future?).
I see AA expanding its use of AS for domestic saver award redemption, lower priced fares, reserving seats to more desirable locations (Hawaii) for higher revenue customers, very much like UA used US when the latter was part of *A. This would make MP saver inventory more scarce, drive up AS fares.
Where this could become interesting is AA's use of married segments for award redemption; fully adding AS to the mix brings potential new opportunities.
I see AA expanding its use of AS for domestic saver award redemption, lower priced fares, reserving seats to more desirable locations (Hawaii) for higher revenue customers, very much like UA used US when the latter was part of *A. This would make MP saver inventory more scarce, drive up AS fares.
Where this could become interesting is AA's use of married segments for award redemption; fully adding AS to the mix brings potential new opportunities.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:17 am
#67
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: los angeles, calif.
Programs: Alaska Airlines Gold MVP
Posts: 7,170
Really no different than WN still not charging for bags 12 years later.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:19 am
#68
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:20 am
#69
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This was quite the surprise to wake up to. I did not see this coming given the impending end of the AA/AS relationship.
That said, I'm not terribly surprised and I think this is probably driven more by AA than by AS, and perhaps AA was feeling so stung by the loss of LATAM that they made AS an offer that AS just couldn't refuse. From the AA side, this makes a lot of sense from a route perspective and enabling them to better compete with DL and UA. From the AS side, we've all long speculated about the future of AS without close relationships with DL or AA, so I think this answers the question of how easy it will be for a non-aligned airline to compete in the US market -- not so easy, so might as well be in bed with somebody.
That said, I'm not terribly surprised and I think this is probably driven more by AA than by AS, and perhaps AA was feeling so stung by the loss of LATAM that they made AS an offer that AS just couldn't refuse. From the AA side, this makes a lot of sense from a route perspective and enabling them to better compete with DL and UA. From the AS side, we've all long speculated about the future of AS without close relationships with DL or AA, so I think this answers the question of how easy it will be for a non-aligned airline to compete in the US market -- not so easy, so might as well be in bed with somebody.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:25 am
#70
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Out of SEA not a big deal, out of SFO bigger, out of LAX probably biggest deal. That being said you’ll actually have a route network that isn’t West Coast based (and let’s be clear, AA’s route network smokes B6 for everywhere save JFK/BOS if we’re dong a merger counterfactual for the 289696478th time- for the middle of the country it’s not even close).
Feb 13, 2020, 9:26 am
#71
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But unlike AS is doing now, WN hasn't gotten in bed with anyone else who'd have a strong incentive to push them on the matter.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:33 am
#72
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:34 am
#73
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:35 am
#74
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Posts: 202
Is it possible that this could also lead to AS expanding networks outside of just the west coast, to AA hubs? Things like east coast-DFW, etc.?
Also, why does everyone seem to sure that the EK partnership is dead? EY and AA have been partners for a while with QR being in OW. Would EK really be that unhappy to see AS in OW with QR that they'd drop the partnership?
Also, why does everyone seem to sure that the EK partnership is dead? EY and AA have been partners for a while with QR being in OW. Would EK really be that unhappy to see AS in OW with QR that they'd drop the partnership?
Feb 13, 2020, 9:41 am
#75
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Location: SEA
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Ditto. This is the one amazing thing that I'll take. I'll test out LAX and EWR at the end of the month.