Feb 13, 20, 8:18 pm
Last edit by: eponymous_coward
Alaska joined oneworld on March 31, 2021. https://blog.alaskaair.com/destinati...nce-countdown/
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
- Alaska Airlines intends to join the oneworld® alliance, the world's fastest growing and most highly rated global airline alliance, by summer 2021, which will connect Alaska guests to more than 1,200 destinations worldwide.
- American will launch the first service from Seattle (SEA) to Bangalore, India (BLR) beginning October 2020. A new American route from SEA to the global business hub London Heathrow (LHR) will begin flying in March 2021.
- The airlines will continue their domestic codeshare that offers customers hassle-free booking and travel between the two networks. The codeshare will expand to include international routes from Los Angeles (LAX) and SEA.
- Alaska and American loyalty members will enjoy benefits across both airlines, including the ability to earn and use miles on both airlines’ full networks, elite status reciprocity and lounge access to nearly 50 American Admirals Club lounges worldwide and seven Alaska Lounges in the U.S.
- For MVP Golds and Gold 75Ks, you will be able to access more than 650 international business class lounges within the oneworld member airline network when flying on an international ticket on an itinerary outside of North America. Source
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Alaska Joined oneworld (3/31/2021)
Feb 13, 20, 7:54 am
#31
Join Date: Nov 2005
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The announcement states “
- Access 650 lounges within the oneworld network as an MVP Gold or Gold 75K member.”
So does this mean as a Gold or 75 we no longer need to join the Alaska lounge, and more importantly will small lounges like PDX be overrun with AA elites?
Feb 13, 20, 8:00 am
#32
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pacific NW
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Posts: 5,890
Originally Posted by Kacee
I also can't help but feel that this is (mostly) bad news for those who value AS primarily for the generous Mileage Plan benefits.
Will be interesting to see if 75K gets OWE status (and if so, whether AS raises the qualification requirements).
Only compared to AS's bargain rates for CX, JL, and KE. Considered relative to other programs, the SQ redemption rates are fine.
Will be interesting to see if 75K gets OWE status (and if so, whether AS raises the qualification requirements).
Only compared to AS's bargain rates for CX, JL, and KE. Considered relative to other programs, the SQ redemption rates are fine.
Feb 13, 20, 8:02 am
#33
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Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Looks like AA and AS have mended their relationships.
Wonder if this would signal the end of some of AS current non-OW partners?
Wonder if this would signal the end of some of AS current non-OW partners?
I wonder if this mean's we'll finally get AS service at Charlotte
Originally Posted by Waitlisted
The announcement states “
- Access 650 lounges within the oneworld network as an MVP Gold or Gold 75K member.”
So does this mean as a Gold or 75 we no longer need to join the Alaska lounge, and more importantly will small lounges like PDX be overrun with AA elites?
Feb 13, 20, 8:07 am
#34
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: AUS, WAS, PEK
Programs: FlyingBlue Gold, United Gold
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Originally Posted by Waitlisted
The announcement states “
- Access 650 lounges within the oneworld network as an MVP Gold or Gold 75K member.”
So does this mean as a Gold or 75 we no longer need to join the Alaska lounge, and more importantly will small lounges like PDX be overrun with AA elites?
Feb 13, 20, 8:08 am
#35
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Originally Posted by Waitlisted
The announcement states “
- Access 650 lounges within the oneworld network as an MVP Gold or Gold 75K member.”
So does this mean as a Gold or 75 we no longer need to join the Alaska lounge, and more importantly will small lounges like PDX be overrun with AA elites?
But giving reciprocal access to OW elites on international itineraries will pressure lounges to some degree, probably at SEA in particular.
Feb 13, 20, 8:19 am
#38
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Originally Posted by Kacee
AA and AS lounge memberships are already reciprocal so no change there.
But giving reciprocal access to OW elites on international itineraries will pressure lounges to some degree, probably at SEA in particular.
But giving reciprocal access to OW elites on international itineraries will pressure lounges to some degree, probably at SEA in particular.
I wonder if OW would do a joint lounge concept at SEA.
The mileage/status news could be bad... except that’s probably a good part of the value proposition. Wonder if they’re trading it for OW.
Feb 13, 20, 8:25 am
#39
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SEA
Programs: AS 100K, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 699
Was it sad that my first thought was "So how much are we going to lose from Mileage Plan?" . Joining an international partnership sounds great on the surface, but I feel like this may be part of AS pivoting to function even more like the bigger airlines when it comes to their FF program. I'd expect at a bare minimum that qualification tiers are going to go up. I would have been far happier if they got back with their Girlfriend Delta and that was the marriage.
Feb 13, 20, 8:33 am
#41
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold
Posts: 1,832
So everyone was complaining about the holes
in the AS network, no way to get to the Caribbean or South America, how underwhelmed they were with Condor, the crazy mileage of EK tickets. Today AS made significant changes that will be good for the long run and guess what, everyone is complaining!
in the AS network, no way to get to the Caribbean or South America, how underwhelmed they were with Condor, the crazy mileage of EK tickets. Today AS made significant changes that will be good for the long run and guess what, everyone is complaining!
Feb 13, 20, 8:34 am
#43
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Originally Posted by rune87
Was it sad that my first thought was "So how much are we going to lose from Mileage Plan?" . Joining an international partnership sounds great on the surface, but I feel like this may be part of AS pivoting to function even more like the bigger airlines when it comes to their FF program. I'd expect at a bare minimum that qualification tiers are going to go up. I would have been far happier if they got back with their Girlfriend Delta and that was the marriage.
Feb 13, 20, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by jsguyrus
So everyone was complaining about the holes
in the AS network, no way to get to the Caribbean or South America, how underwhelmed they were with Condor, the crazy mileage of EK tickets. Today AS made significant changes that will be good for the long run and guess what, everyone is complaining!
in the AS network, no way to get to the Caribbean or South America, how underwhelmed they were with Condor, the crazy mileage of EK tickets. Today AS made significant changes that will be good for the long run and guess what, everyone is complaining!
I would bet money though that if QR stays in the alliance there’s QR Suites in SEA’s future though.
