Feb 13, 2020, 8:18 pm
Last edit by: eponymous_coward
Alaska joined oneworld on March 31, 2021. https://blog.alaskaair.com/destinati...nce-countdown/
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Note: you cannot make award bookings on OW partners that were not already partners before 3/31 (so can't book QR, UL, S7, MH, RJ, IB, AT). ETA is "later in 2021" (as of April 2021).
Speculation thread for possible changes to Mileage Plan: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...l#post32086422
Press Releases related to oneworld announcement:
AS: https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/news-...es?item=123939
OW: https://www.oneworld.com/news/2020-0...n-the-alliance
AA: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details...P/default.aspx
Video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/390731665
Few bullets from releases:
- Alaska Airlines intends to join the oneworld® alliance, the world's fastest growing and most highly rated global airline alliance, by summer 2021, which will connect Alaska guests to more than 1,200 destinations worldwide.
- American will launch the first service from Seattle (SEA) to Bangalore, India (BLR) beginning October 2020. A new American route from SEA to the global business hub London Heathrow (LHR) will begin flying in March 2021.
- The airlines will continue their domestic codeshare that offers customers hassle-free booking and travel between the two networks. The codeshare will expand to include international routes from Los Angeles (LAX) and SEA.
- Alaska and American loyalty members will enjoy benefits across both airlines, including the ability to earn and use miles on both airlines’ full networks, elite status reciprocity and lounge access to nearly 50 American Admirals Club lounges worldwide and seven Alaska Lounges in the U.S.
- For MVP Golds and Gold 75Ks, you will be able to access more than 650 international business class lounges within the oneworld member airline network when flying on an international ticket on an itinerary outside of North America. Source
Earning redeemable and elite qualifying miles on all flights marketed and operated by AA was restored on April 1, 2020. Earning chart
Alaska Joined oneworld (3/31/2021)
Apr 14, 2021, 2:14 pm
#1591
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: AS 100K, HH Diamond, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 189
Are non-rev agreements part of any sort of partnership (be that code-sharing, inter-lining, a joint venture, etc.)? (You seem to be informed)
A.k.a. As AS independently struck partnerships with BA, CX, QF, etc., over the preceding years, did that generally include non-rev opportunities in some form?
A.k.a. As AS independently struck partnerships with BA, CX, QF, etc., over the preceding years, did that generally include non-rev opportunities in some form?
Exact details contract by contract. Some get a % off lowest published, some off full-fare, and most have intricacies in which taxes/surcharges/other pieces you do/don't have to cover. Most airlines give a few positive-space flights per year to their own employees, so perhaps AS/AA have made those deals metal neutral between the two as well.
Apr 14, 2021, 3:30 pm
#1592
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: AS MVPG75K, HH Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, AGR S+
Posts: 366
Are non-rev agreements part of any sort of partnership (be that code-sharing, inter-lining, a joint venture, etc.)? (You seem to be informed)
A.k.a. As AS independently struck partnerships with BA, CX, QF, etc., over the preceding years, did that generally include non-rev opportunities in some form?
A.k.a. As AS independently struck partnerships with BA, CX, QF, etc., over the preceding years, did that generally include non-rev opportunities in some form?
You can often non-rev even with non-partner airlines (e.g. WN can fly AA international nonrev), but often part of a closer partnership is a lower-cost nonrev ticket. Can't speak to AS agreements, but at WN AA/UA to say SCL might have been $200 roundtrip, space-a, while with a partner airline (say AS with AA) it could be free or $50 instead.
Exact details contract by contract. Some get a % off lowest published, some off full-fare, and most have intricacies in which taxes/surcharges/other pieces you do/don't have to cover. Most airlines give a few positive-space flights per year to their own employees, so perhaps AS/AA have made those deals metal neutral between the two as well.
Exact details contract by contract. Some get a % off lowest published, some off full-fare, and most have intricacies in which taxes/surcharges/other pieces you do/don't have to cover. Most airlines give a few positive-space flights per year to their own employees, so perhaps AS/AA have made those deals metal neutral between the two as well.
Apr 18, 2021, 6:38 pm
#1593
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: oneword Emerald
Posts: 20,639
According to the AA Travel Guide (page 15), the boarding priority is as follows: AA employees and dependents, AA retirees, parents of AA employees, AA regional affiliates employees and their eligible travelers, buddy passes, oneworld airlines employees, retirees and eligible travelers, and lastly, other airlines employees, retirees and eligible travelers.
Last edited by TWA884; Apr 18, 2021 at 6:46 pm
Apr 26, 2021, 11:51 am
#1594
Join Date: Dec 2020
Programs: HH Diamond
Posts: 6
World Traveller Plus Seats?
I am an Alaska MVP Gold and booked a trip to Europe on American Airlines. My outbound flight is a codeshare that is operated by British Airways. Should I have access to World Traveller Plus Seats on this flight? On my return trip on American Airlines, I was able to reserve Main Cabin Extra seats, but my outbound is not giving me access to select World Traveller Plus.
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Apr 26, 2021, 12:01 pm
#1595
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Denver
Programs: AS, AA, UA, Hilton, Marriott, Caesars DE
Posts: 2,070
I am an Alaska MVP Gold and booked a trip to Europe on American Airlines. My outbound flight is a codeshare that is operated by British Airways. Should I have access to World Traveller Plus Seats on this flight? On my return trip on American Airlines, I was able to reserve Main Cabin Extra seats, but my outbound is not giving me access to select World Traveller Plus.
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Apr 26, 2021, 1:42 pm
#1596
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,027
I am an Alaska MVP Gold and booked a trip to Europe on American Airlines. My outbound flight is a codeshare that is operated by British Airways. Should I have access to World Traveller Plus Seats on this flight? On my return trip on American Airlines, I was able to reserve Main Cabin Extra seats, but my outbound is not giving me access to select World Traveller Plus.
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.!
When I reserved the flights through American, there was a mixup and they didn't include my Alaska number (I had to call and they included an old AA Advantage number with no status) and I am trying to figure out if that's why I don't have access to these seats; or, if the Alaska status doesn't give me access to World Traveller Plus.
Any insight would be appreciated.!
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33073612-post19.html
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Jun 11, 2021, 10:49 am
#1597
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AS 75K, DL Silver, UA Platinum, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Platinum + LT Gold
Posts: 10,514
I have an upcoming flight with AA, and using my AS status, I had assigned myself a complementary MCE seat.
Let's say I'd contact AA, and request the change of my FF crediting from AS to AA, can I assume my MCE seat would be lost and auto updated to a main cabin seat?
Let's say I'd contact AA, and request the change of my FF crediting from AS to AA, can I assume my MCE seat would be lost and auto updated to a main cabin seat?
Jun 12, 2021, 11:26 am
#1598
Used to be 'Travelergcp'
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Orleans
Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,826
Anyone seeing status mapping errors using an AA # on an AS reservation? I’m AA Plat (OW sapphire) but AS sees it as Ruby. No advance premium seats for me. First line support couldn’t figure it out and forwarded it to IT.
Jun 12, 2021, 11:50 am
#1599
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: ANC
Programs: Alaska 100k
Posts: 1,012
As an anecdote, I was MVP for my last AA flight. My boarding pass said "GOLD" on it. This might have been because the OW Ruby level for AA is Gold.
Jun 13, 2021, 10:50 am
#1600
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,991
When the EK announcement was made I immediately looked to see if Qatar was up and running NO so I wrote AS asking how could this happen without the ability to book OW ( other than BA ) more in particular Qatar and no ability shown. I just got a reply stating that as of August 1st we will be able to book Qatar and others, YEAAAA. While I will miss EK having taken 6 trips on them their cabins were getting little long in the tooth and the ability to fly through Doho will be something to look forward to, the Louvre etc.
What I am nervous about is the forthcoming redemption charts. AA is readying a chartless system, thank you Parker! Where will AS go/be in all this mess is to be seen. I am going to a reception 6/24 with the top management of AS and have some questions to ask, will post afterwards.
What I am nervous about is the forthcoming redemption charts. AA is readying a chartless system, thank you Parker! Where will AS go/be in all this mess is to be seen. I am going to a reception 6/24 with the top management of AS and have some questions to ask, will post afterwards.
Jun 13, 2021, 10:52 am
#1601
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
When the EK announcement was made I immediately looked to see if Qatar was up and running NO so I wrote AS asking how could this happen without the ability to book OW ( other than BA ) more in particular Qatar and no ability shown. I just got a reply stating that as of August 1st we will be able to book Qatar and others, YEAAAA. While I will miss EK having taken 6 trips on them their cabins were getting little long in the tooth and the ability to fly through Doho will be something to look forward to, the Louvre etc.
What I am nervous about is the forthcoming redemption charts. AA is readying a chartless system, thank you Parker! Where will AS go/be in all this mess is to be seen. I am going to a reception 6/24 with the top management of AS and have some questions to ask, will post afterwards.
What I am nervous about is the forthcoming redemption charts. AA is readying a chartless system, thank you Parker! Where will AS go/be in all this mess is to be seen. I am going to a reception 6/24 with the top management of AS and have some questions to ask, will post afterwards.
Jun 13, 2021, 11:00 am
#1602
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,752
Jun 13, 2021, 12:09 pm
#1603
Used to be 'Travelergcp'
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Orleans
Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,826
Jun 13, 2021, 12:54 pm
#1605
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 200
I had not seen this before and am not sure if this has been discussed but Qatar is filing for what seems like a fairly decent code share on AS.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/simplef...re-filing/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/simplef...re-filing/amp/