Alaska Air stock falls sharply on difficulties with Virgin, Horizon Air
Oct 31, 2017, 3:59 pm
#181
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Disruption typically occurs when the incumbents are “over serving” a market, and the disrupting firms enter with a cheaper product that is “good enough.” One could easily argue that the entire airline industry has been disrupted by LCCs and ULCCs, and the US3 have survived only through bankruptcy law and adopting ULCC-like products themselves.
I think others tried to argue it was more about product/service, which is more difficult to argue.
Nov 1, 2017, 3:05 pm
#182
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Nov 1, 2017, 3:34 pm
#183
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JetBlue also offering free TV and movie screens and low one way prices with a better product also caused a major disruption. DL and others started whole new brands (Song) to try and compete and even today, many markets within the US are still priced one way. Before jetblue you had to stay over a Saturday night, travel between 1202AM and 152AM on a Tuesday and return at some other random time to get the best rate. The fare rules were insanely complicated.
It is difficult to come up with anything that AS has done product wise that had any real impact on the industry. Most carriers did not even pay any attention to AS. They are only paying attention now as they entered California where everybody is.
Nov 1, 2017, 5:52 pm
#184
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AA has 40-42" pitch on their 737s. AS has 41".
Nov 1, 2017, 6:49 pm
#186
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the *new* seats will be better than AAs once installed. I just wish AS would get the little beverage trays between the seats like AA has (the ones that fold down from the armrest between the seats in FRONT of you).
Nov 1, 2017, 9:32 pm
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Nov 1, 2017, 10:43 pm
#189
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Nov 1, 2017, 11:46 pm
#191
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I do my resesrch before posting. 😉 I found it on Seat Guru. This A320 is used on the LAS-PHX route and I have flown it. First was really cramped. If you are at the window, no way of getting out without the isle vacating their seat. I was in MCE and had oddles of room. $60 flight and complimentary upgrade to MCE as MVPG at the time. I will miss that come the new year.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Am...te=2017-11-02#
If the info on Seat Guru is incorrect, unfortunately that is out of my control.
Click on the info tab to see the seating specifications.
James
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Am...te=2017-11-02#
If the info on Seat Guru is incorrect, unfortunately that is out of my control.
Click on the info tab to see the seating specifications. James
Nov 2, 2017, 7:43 am
#193
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Nov 2, 2017, 9:57 am
#194
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Nov 2, 2017, 11:13 am
#195
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