Alaska Air stock falls sharply on difficulties with Virgin, Horizon Air
Oct 30, 2017, 5:48 pm
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Oct 30, 2017, 7:20 pm
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Oct 30, 2017, 7:57 pm
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-> 1st airline to offer digeplayers / on demand video to passengers (they even beat JetBlue to this, who had seatback TVs). All other airlines had their videos on a loop.
-> they *used* to have the best seat pitch in Y
-> They were the first to offer more than just "nuts and pretzels" in their lounges by offering the pancake machine, soups, and salads.
-> They were also the first to NOT charge for liquor, systemwide, in their lounges.
-> The partnerships with both AA / DL provided elite-level benefits to their passengers; baggage, upgrades, and seating. Name 1 other US carrier that has this with another US partner.
-> Alaska was the first to offer one-way redemptions/awards on mileage tickets
-> Alaska was last to pull back food offerings in F
-> Alaska was the first airline to offer regional alcohol, on a regular basis, onboard
-> Horizon offers free alcohol to all customers
Oct 30, 2017, 8:31 pm
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That's actually not true. Not sure how long you've followed Alaska or flown them.
-> 1st airline to offer digeplayers / on demand video to passengers (they even beat JetBlue to this, who had seatback TVs). All other airlines had their videos on a loop.
-> they *used* to have the best seat pitch in Y
-> They were the first to offer more than just "nuts and pretzels" in their lounges by offering the pancake machine, soups, and salads.
-> They were also the first to NOT charge for liquor, systemwide, in their lounges.
-> The partnerships with both AA / DL provided elite-level benefits to their passengers; baggage, upgrades, and seating. Name 1 other US carrier that has this with another US partner.
-> Alaska was the first to offer one-way redemptions/awards on mileage tickets
-> Alaska was last to pull back food offerings in F
-> Alaska was the first airline to offer regional alcohol, on a regular basis, onboard
-> Horizon offers free alcohol to all customers
-> 1st airline to offer digeplayers / on demand video to passengers (they even beat JetBlue to this, who had seatback TVs). All other airlines had their videos on a loop.
-> they *used* to have the best seat pitch in Y
-> They were the first to offer more than just "nuts and pretzels" in their lounges by offering the pancake machine, soups, and salads.
-> They were also the first to NOT charge for liquor, systemwide, in their lounges.
-> The partnerships with both AA / DL provided elite-level benefits to their passengers; baggage, upgrades, and seating. Name 1 other US carrier that has this with another US partner.
-> Alaska was the first to offer one-way redemptions/awards on mileage tickets
-> Alaska was last to pull back food offerings in F
-> Alaska was the first airline to offer regional alcohol, on a regular basis, onboard
-> Horizon offers free alcohol to all customers
So nothing recent. You've pretty much proved his point.
Oct 30, 2017, 8:33 pm
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Oct 30, 2017, 8:47 pm
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First airline to sell tickets through its website (1995).
First airline to offer online check-in (1999).
While were technically not the first to offer kiosk check-in, they rolled out kiosks systemwide way ahead of other US carriers (1999).
Alaska also pioneered RNP approaches in 1996 and was the first US carrier to fully equip its fleet for RNP approaches.
Oct 30, 2017, 9:39 pm
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I flew VX three times in early October. Twice in a 8/8 F cabin (ORD-LAX and LAX-SEA), once on a completely full flight where I wasn't upgraded to MCS because, well, completely full flight (SFO-SEA).
I'm sure my anecdotes are not as valid for whatever reason, though.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm sure my anecdotes are not as valid for whatever reason, though.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its a thin frequency however, and the only time I'd been on VX.
Alaska has already came out and made it clear that they plan on being the "in between" airline.
they want to be the guy between the ULCC/LCCs and the mainline carriers.
And, not coming out as an Alaska fanboy, but they seem to be headed that way. They are making an F product, for a 737, that is nicer than "the other guys" and an acceptable service matrix in the premium cabin.
they want to be the guy between the ULCC/LCCs and the mainline carriers.
And, not coming out as an Alaska fanboy, but they seem to be headed that way. They are making an F product, for a 737, that is nicer than "the other guys" and an acceptable service matrix in the premium cabin.
Oct 31, 2017, 4:40 am
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Relax, that is why I said FWIW...
Oct 31, 2017, 5:38 am
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And again nothing that disrupted the industry. Their lounges are still terrible and no we don’t get excited about a pancake machine or the fact they they were the first to offer and the last to withdraw prayer cards from the meal tray either.
Oct 31, 2017, 6:27 am
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Just off JFK-LAS 8/8 filled. Packed flight.
Guess one could call JFK a "focus city" I suppose- and there is thru traffic to SFO...
Its a thin frequency however, and the only time I'd been on VX.
Guess this is why I like AS so much. I like my classic
Agree.
Time to buy ALK?
Guess one could call JFK a "focus city" I suppose- and there is thru traffic to SFO...
Its a thin frequency however, and the only time I'd been on VX.
Guess this is why I like AS so much. I like my classic
Agree.
Time to buy ALK?
having said that, I wouldn't invest in any airline stock, but that's just me. Allows me to enjoy flying a little more.
Oct 31, 2017, 6:28 am
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I think you overestimate the ability and scope of disruption in the US airline industry. The only real disruption the industry has seen in the past decade is selling a better product for less (e.g. Mint). The type of positive innovation generally associate with disruption has been lacking since, we can all admit, it is tough to innovate with a commodity product.
Oct 31, 2017, 6:30 am
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That's actually not true. Not sure how long you've followed Alaska or flown them.
-> 1st airline to offer digeplayers / on demand video to passengers (they even beat JetBlue to this, who had seatback TVs). All other airlines had their videos on a loop.
-> they *used* to have the best seat pitch in Y
-> They were the first to offer more than just "nuts and pretzels" in their lounges by offering the pancake machine, soups, and salads.
-> They were also the first to NOT charge for liquor, systemwide, in their lounges.
-> The partnerships with both AA / DL provided elite-level benefits to their passengers; baggage, upgrades, and seating. Name 1 other US carrier that has this with another US partner.
-> Alaska was the first to offer one-way redemptions/awards on mileage tickets
-> Alaska was last to pull back food offerings in F
-> Alaska was the first airline to offer regional alcohol, on a regular basis, onboard
-> Horizon offers free alcohol to all customers
-> 1st airline to offer digeplayers / on demand video to passengers (they even beat JetBlue to this, who had seatback TVs). All other airlines had their videos on a loop.
-> they *used* to have the best seat pitch in Y
-> They were the first to offer more than just "nuts and pretzels" in their lounges by offering the pancake machine, soups, and salads.
-> They were also the first to NOT charge for liquor, systemwide, in their lounges.
-> The partnerships with both AA / DL provided elite-level benefits to their passengers; baggage, upgrades, and seating. Name 1 other US carrier that has this with another US partner.
-> Alaska was the first to offer one-way redemptions/awards on mileage tickets
-> Alaska was last to pull back food offerings in F
-> Alaska was the first airline to offer regional alcohol, on a regular basis, onboard
-> Horizon offers free alcohol to all customers
Oct 31, 2017, 1:58 pm
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Disruption typically occurs when the incumbents are “over serving” a market, and the disrupting firms enter with a cheaper product that is “good enough.” One could easily argue that the entire airline industry has been disrupted by LCCs and ULCCs, and the US3 have survived only through bankruptcy law and adopting ULCC-like products themselves.
Oct 31, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Disruption typically occurs when the incumbents are “over serving” a market, and the disrupting firms enter with a cheaper product that is “good enough.” One could easily argue that the entire airline industry has been disrupted by LCCs and ULCCs, and the US3 have survived only through bankruptcy law and adopting ULCC-like products themselves.