Oct 11, 2017, 11:39 am
Last edit by: isaacchambers
All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
- 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
- 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
- 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
- All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Retirements Tracking Thread
Jan 9, 2024, 9:56 pm
#902
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: EWR/PHL/JFK
Programs: A3*G, AS MVPG, UA, AA
Posts: 610
The 737 max will return to service way before Alaska could secure a spot in line with Airbus. Alaska already has at least 2 Max’s assembled and in storage. Reading the tea leaves I see a return to an all 737 fleet over the next 5-7 years with the a319s returned in the near term, the a320 phased out over years, and a321s phases out in the 5-7 year timeframe.
How anyone is still willing to buy one of these aircraft from Boeing is beyond my reasoning abilities.
Jan 15, 2024, 12:02 pm
#903
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: SFO
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Given the N8 series (and some N6 series) are still parked yet still part of Alaska still.....
Is there any chance or contingency plans to get these birds flying back with Alaska. I am unsure on the status of the pilots group and rating....but could the cross certifying pilots go back to airbus fairly quickly?
I know several are planned to go to AC....but that still leaves about 20 or so that are still "with Alaska".
Is there any chance or contingency plans to get these birds flying back with Alaska. I am unsure on the status of the pilots group and rating....but could the cross certifying pilots go back to airbus fairly quickly?
I know several are planned to go to AC....but that still leaves about 20 or so that are still "with Alaska".
Jan 15, 2024, 10:54 pm
#904
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 56
Given the N8 series (and some N6 series) are still parked yet still part of Alaska still.....
Is there any chance or contingency plans to get these birds flying back with Alaska. I am unsure on the status of the pilots group and rating....but could the cross certifying pilots go back to airbus fairly quickly?
I know several are planned to go to AC....but that still leaves about 20 or so that are still "with Alaska".
Is there any chance or contingency plans to get these birds flying back with Alaska. I am unsure on the status of the pilots group and rating....but could the cross certifying pilots go back to airbus fairly quickly?
I know several are planned to go to AC....but that still leaves about 20 or so that are still "with Alaska".
If Alaska returns the Airbuses to service it would be part of a longer term strategy shift (which I personally am rooting for, given the quality issues with Boeing), not a quick band-aid.
Jan 16, 2024, 8:03 pm
#905
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: EWR/PHL/JFK
Programs: A3*G, AS MVPG, UA, AA
Posts: 610
Depending on the condition and type of storage, it would take at least 2-4 weeks to un-mothball those planes. Cross-certifications of pilots and maintainence would take even longer.
If Alaska returns the Airbuses to service it would be part of a longer term strategy shift (which I personally am rooting for, given the quality issues with Boeing), not a quick band-aid.
If Alaska returns the Airbuses to service it would be part of a longer term strategy shift (which I personally am rooting for, given the quality issues with Boeing), not a quick band-aid.
Based on this article, Alaska management seems to, given their cheery public statements (contrast with United's mum response).
Jan 16, 2024, 8:17 pm
#906
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I mean, is anyone actually expecting a meaningful portion of the MAX9 fleet to be operational any sooner than that?
Based on this article, Alaska management seems to, given their cheery public statements (contrast with United's mum response).
Based on this article, Alaska management seems to, given their cheery public statements (contrast with United's mum response).
im hoping all returns to normal by the end of the month….but I chose June 2024 in my Boeing pool and I’m standing firm.
Jan 16, 2024, 8:56 pm
#907
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: EWR/PHL/JFK
Programs: A3*G, AS MVPG, UA, AA
Posts: 610
I would be shocked if such a quick turnaround took place.
Alaska, at this point in time, still continues to cancel flights one day at a time. Their latest update only talks about inspecting 20 planes, and that's just the preliminary inspections to establish what the final inspection protocol is going to be. As of today, Boeing has provided a draft inspection protocol which FAA wants to test using preliminary inspections, after which it will potentially be sent back for revision. That means before planes can go back into the sky, we have
I cannot see how all of this is going to happen in two weeks.
Alaska, at this point in time, still continues to cancel flights one day at a time. Their latest update only talks about inspecting 20 planes, and that's just the preliminary inspections to establish what the final inspection protocol is going to be. As of today, Boeing has provided a draft inspection protocol which FAA wants to test using preliminary inspections, after which it will potentially be sent back for revision. That means before planes can go back into the sky, we have
- AS and UA perform preliminary inspections using this preliminary approved protocol
- AS and UA having feedback of their own, or potentially discovering additional issues, as a result of doing these inspections
- FAA requests updates to inspection protocol to address issues found during the preliminary inspections
- repeat steps 1-3 until FAA is satisfied
- final inspection protocol approved
- grounded planes are inspected using final approved protocol and returned to service
I cannot see how all of this is going to happen in two weeks.
Last edited by lensovet; Jan 16, 2024 at 9:01 pm
Jan 20, 2024, 8:30 pm
#908
Join Date: Jan 2021
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It appears maybe Alaska has access to about 10 320s at the moment. Perhaps this is not as feasible or useful as previously thought. I updated the wiki above.