Jul 6, 2017, 8:16 am
Last edit by: rustykettel
Link to Official AS Blog Post
Major points from this thread and from missydarlin:
Link to share your feedback with Alaska Airlines:
https://www.alaskaair.com/feedback
Discussion in the American Airlines forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...an-2018-a.html
Major points from this thread and from missydarlin:
- Effective Jan 1, 2018, domestic AA-marketed flights will not earn any Mileage Plan miles. AS-marketed, AA-operated codeshares will continue to earn AS miles at the AS earning rate (ie a minimum of one mile earned per mile flown). Domestic flights marketed by other partners (eg BA) and operated by AA will no longer earn AS miles. Post-Jan 1 flights booked prior to Jul 6, 2017 may be submitted for mileage credit.
- International AA flights (including US-Canada and US-Mexico) will continue to earn AS miles. Domestic AA flights which connect to international flights will not earn miles. It will remain impossible to book international AA-operated flights through Alaska to get an AS codeshare or an AS-operated domestic feeder flight.
- Reciprocal elite status benefits (waived checked bag fees, preferred/MCE seat assignments, priority boarding) between AA and AS go away Jan 1, 2018. Seat assignments made prior to Jan 1 for post-Jan 1 flights will remain.
- The reciprocal lounge access arrangment between AA and AS will not change.
- AA will remain a mileage redemption partner of AS with only relatively minor tweaks to the award chart (some increases, some decreases).
Link to share your feedback with Alaska Airlines:
https://www.alaskaair.com/feedback
Discussion in the American Airlines forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...an-2018-a.html
AS and AA Partnership Changes (Effective 1 January 2018)
Feb 8, 2020, 9:26 pm
#661
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I would think Delta's policy is more applicable than a foreign airline:
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency...rge-rules.html
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency...rge-rules.html
Feb 8, 2020, 9:36 pm
#662
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It's not specifically about policy, but how to determine what is the MSC under the IATA rule (when that applies, either as a non-US origination/termination or when the first marketing carrier on a US originating/terminating ticket chooses to apply the IATA MSC rule). DL glosses it over as "generally the first international operating carrier" whereas NZ gives a more detailed explanation. It's the same rule and same term and DL is using those same rules when they apply the IATA rule.
Feb 8, 2020, 9:37 pm
#663
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I would leave you AA FF# on the reservation for the check baggage waiver and then either in the Lounge or at the gate have an agent change it to your AS FF#. Even when they change your FF#, AA still retains theirs in the record. Request that the AA FF# also be removed. My experience is that if the AA FF# isn't removed, automatic credit to AS may be hindered.
James
James
Feb 8, 2020, 9:46 pm
#664
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I had missed that you also have AA status. Given that, James is right, have the AA FF# in when you check in with AA; that’s how you’ll get the fee waived.
Feb 8, 2020, 9:48 pm
#665
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My understanding is yes. And I think technically they are supposed to balk at removing it if you’ve used any status benefits including bag fee waivers or seat selection. Not sure how strict they are in practice or even what the rules are there.
Feb 8, 2020, 9:55 pm
#666
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When the AA check in agent pulls up your ticket, it will show on there which rules & fees apply. Of course, you can always get an agent who won't look further if their computer pops up something different initially.
Feb 9, 2020, 10:35 am
#667
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Location: Yellow Springs
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Anybody know how benefits work on code-share flights? Have a flight coming up from Canada, operated by AA but marketed by AS, connecting to AS flight. If I have my AS number will I get my free checked bags on checkin?
Currently I have my AA number on there to get my benefits, but I would like to credit it to AS but not sure how AA will respond on Canada.
(I have status on both AA and AS)
Currently I have my AA number on there to get my benefits, but I would like to credit it to AS but not sure how AA will respond on Canada.
(I have status on both AA and AS)
Feb 13, 2020, 6:53 am
#668
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https://www.alaskaair.com/content/on...|20200213_AW||
We are partnering with American Airlines to expand our global reach––connecting the West Coast to the rest of the world in a remarkable way. Our Global Partner network has always provided guests with the opportunity to go global, but today, we are proud to strengthen our relationship with American Airlines and, in Summer 2021, plan to join the oneworld alliance. This means traveling on Alaska, American or a oneworld partner will feel like one connected travel experience––no matter who or where you fly.
We are partnering with American Airlines to expand our global reach––connecting the West Coast to the rest of the world in a remarkable way. Our Global Partner network has always provided guests with the opportunity to go global, but today, we are proud to strengthen our relationship with American Airlines and, in Summer 2021, plan to join the oneworld alliance. This means traveling on Alaska, American or a oneworld partner will feel like one connected travel experience––no matter who or where you fly.
Feb 13, 2020, 7:00 am
#669
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https://www.alaskaair.com/content/on...|20200213_AW||
We are partnering with American Airlines to expand our global reach––connecting the West Coast to the rest of the world in a remarkable way. Our Global Partner network has always provided guests with the opportunity to go global, but today, we are proud to strengthen our relationship with American Airlines and, in Summer 2021, plan to join the oneworld alliance. This means traveling on Alaska, American or a oneworld partner will feel like one connected travel experience––no matter who or where you fly.
We are partnering with American Airlines to expand our global reach––connecting the West Coast to the rest of the world in a remarkable way. Our Global Partner network has always provided guests with the opportunity to go global, but today, we are proud to strengthen our relationship with American Airlines and, in Summer 2021, plan to join the oneworld alliance. This means traveling on Alaska, American or a oneworld partner will feel like one connected travel experience––no matter who or where you fly.
Side thought: any implication on non-OW partners, like SQ, for AS?
Feb 13, 2020, 7:08 am
#670
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Too early to tell but I would imagine LATAM and SQ will no longer be partners in the long run.
Feb 13, 2020, 7:11 am
#671
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Wonder if this means a change to AS miles earning/redemption as well if they are back to partnering with AA.
Feb 13, 2020, 7:33 am
#673
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Feb 13, 2020, 8:33 am
#674
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I don't see how it could. Why would AA go back to allowing their pax who don't meet revenue minimums to get back door elite status on AS? Unless things are worse at AA than they've been letting on.
I also wonder what this means for network expansion/contraction for both sides. This points to less contention in the future, which doesn't match up with what's been happening previously.
I also wonder what this means for network expansion/contraction for both sides. This points to less contention in the future, which doesn't match up with what's been happening previously.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:43 am
#675
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) and BA Silver, this changes everything.Still, in the back of my mind is that thought: why would two airlines with large (and relatively large) domestic footprints join the same alliance? One thought is possible future acquisition. Don't get me wrong, as EXP, I do like AA, but AS have some unique qualities that I would not want to see go away. Anyway, more than likely wrong
Cheers.
Last edited by brp; Feb 13, 2020 at 9:54 am