WebTraveler

The only real option we have to show our displeasure is to walk to other airlines, but right now Alaska may be relieved that we walk and make their rebooking challenges less. The bottom line is long term we're not as important to Alaska as is the potential customer in SFO. That's reality. Maybe it's a good business decision - but its bad for customers in PDX and its bad for us overall. All those years of good business goodwill are thrown out the window.

I have opened up my flight search and I am flying Southwest and United much more in the coming months. Screw Alaska, and screw Brad Tilden. Tilden needs to feel the wrath and I will put my two cents in. Notice how the former Alaska employees that used to frequently comment here - they're long gone - they don't want to feel this wrath.

It's a great opening for someone to come in and steal traffic. Let's all give the others a chance.

Asquared1

Yeah, you can kind of tell when you look at a day of PDX-SEA flights and almost all are around $90, but a couple are $249 with a completely open seat map that something is up.

WebTraveler

Welcome to the Brad Tilden Screw Job. Bottom line is that you gotta look around at what your options are with this silly mess Tilden has steered into. We gotta find a way put the heat on this man to start doing a better job.

PDXPremier

I am actually just the opposite....I would gladly take PDX-SEA-MCI over PDX-MCI for a number of reasons...#1...More EQMs/RDMs....#2 The lounge options in SEA for PP are pretty decent and I'm in love with the Buffalo pasta salad at the Centurion Lounge....#3 I enjoy flying and traveling in general...yeah, time is money but only during my work hours which are totally separate from my travel (ie, hobby) time....this IS Flyertalk, right?

WebTraveler

I'd rather hang out with the kids and do leisurely activities rather than sit in a connecting airport. Each their own, this is why the USA is great.

Asquared1

Looks like Nov changes are in. I've only gone over PDX-SEA, but it seems like QX has kept more of the flights than in Oct and even have a couple of their E75's in the mix.

ucdtim17

Weird update. PDX-OAK and PDX-SMF are 2x 737 Dec 1-14 but at their default 3/4x Q400 before and after.

UAPremierExec

only trust schedules 90 days out. Everything else is just a place holder.

Asquared1

In Nov PDX - SEA #2286 @2130 is sandwiched between two same route flights 15-20 minutes before/after. Priced at $249 every instance. What's with that? Is it set aside for some type of connection or is it just there as a spare that they can open up later (at a realistic price) if they need the seats or cxl? All other flights are in the $90 territory.

mbluecpa

I suspect we'll see more changes/corrections/cancellations. SEA-PDX has two bookable flights at 3:42pm for several days in November, one each QX and OO. Some of the E75s also don't show F available - not sure if that's an error or placeholder in case a Q400 gets subbed.

I don't feel like I can rely on the schedule for SEA-PDX and vice versa - and that's kinda one of the points of a "shuttle" in the first place.

jsguyrus

Sadly you can't rely on any QX schedule anywhere. Had a flight last week EWR-SEA-YKM. Three days out the SEA-YKM cancelled. I had to rebook with a wonderful five hour layover in Seattle, and ended up getting home nine hours after my original flight time. I followed up on "Alaska (used to) Listens" and got a note back "sorry" and that's about it.

Apparently cancellations are so common now they don't even bother with compensation.

WebTraveler

Welcome to the Brad Tilden Screw Job going on. There's not a whole lot of love going on from Alaska; we're all just royally screwed. My next five flights are on Southwest. They'll get me there - and if something goes wrong I can connect through a half a dozen cities. I give up some stuff, but I know I can get to each of the five in a non-stop flight without a 9 hr delay as you note.

Altaflyer

Had my YEG-SEA QX cancelled Nov11 and the agent offered me a Westjet to Palm Springs and a CNX up to SFO on Virgin America. This is on an award! I’d say that’s pretty good service given I leave later and arrive earlier and likely will score some miles as well

pdx1M

Hey I didn't even get the politeness of a reply to my Alaska (doesn't) Listens note. Even a we're sorry would have been better than just being ignored. Sure hope someone wakes management up before permanent damage is done (they're getting close from where I stand).

LaneW

Apparently the don't listen, or care. The damage has been done as far as I'm concerned - after two cancelled flights that cost me serious credibility with a client, they just cancelled flights I booked for my kids to come visit. Ruined a business relationship and a treasured family event.

I have been 75K for several years and have always loved this airline - between this and the way that AK crapped on us with the Virgin fiasco, I'm done. Have requested a status match from Delta, who I hate, and I hope they don't treat their loyal customers like AK has come to find acceptable. Done with Alaska Airlines, sadly.