AS Mileage Plan and VX Elevate Speculation Thread [Consolidated]
Apr 20, 2016, 6:50 pm
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Apr 20, 2016, 6:56 pm
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Apr 20, 2016, 7:45 pm
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What makes you say AS doesn't like *A? I don't think the lack of *A partners is any real indicator. You can only have so many partners who are in direct competition of one another. Also seems as is more interested in adding independents recently as example adding FI again and the newest Asian partner HU. But yea adding/keeping SQ could be a long shot as SQ doesn't have much to gain from it.
It is also my impression that CO terminated the partnership with AS, not the other way around. At the time, CO's then-new partner UA competed much more directly with AS than any of the other legacies, since UA had the two west coast hubs and substantial operations in SEA, including routes like GEG and PDX in direction competition with bread-and-butter AS/QX routes. So I doubt UA wanted its partners to partner with AS.
Apr 22, 2016, 10:17 pm
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We should all thank DL for encroaching into AS territory. Otherwise, I bet all loyal AS frequent flyers would have been screwed long time ago by AS cutting benefits on the mileage plan program and even switching to revenue-based program. It is a business, and there is incentive for them to follow the industrial trend, unless they have to buck the trend to defend their home turf.
Apr 23, 2016, 7:45 pm
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I thought it might be an alliance rule. However, VX and AS are not on any alliances, so my thinking was if VX was allowed under *A rues why AS wouldn't be allowed as well? SQ also partners with B6, although that's an earn and no burn arrangement
Apr 29, 2016, 2:02 pm
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We should all thank DL for encroaching into AS territory. Otherwise, I bet all loyal AS frequent flyers would have been screwed long time ago by AS cutting benefits on the mileage plan program and even switching to revenue-based program. It is a business, and there is incentive for them to follow the industrial trend, unless they have to buck the trend to defend their home turf.
Dec 8, 2016, 8:49 pm
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The path is finally clear. So, I am wondering the same as OP -- when can we start flying LAX-BOS on VX and credit those EQMs and get those upgrades?
Dec 8, 2016, 9:00 pm
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So, I would imagine if AS is willing to keep the interline rates that VX has negotiated with SQ, SQ will likely stay partner.
Dec 8, 2016, 9:39 pm
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[QUOTE=jediwho;27585472]The path is finally clear. So, I am wondering the same as OP -- when can we start flying LAX-BOS on VX and credit those EQMs and get those upgrades?[/
Just a guess.... But I don't see this happening anytime soon...the typical merger process is relatively slow..DOJ approval doesn't make things move any faster and right now AS seems to have its hands full with its new premium economy product roll-out next year.
Just a guess.... But I don't see this happening anytime soon...the typical merger process is relatively slow..DOJ approval doesn't make things move any faster and right now AS seems to have its hands full with its new premium economy product roll-out next year.
Dec 8, 2016, 9:49 pm
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Just a guess.... But I don't see this happening anytime soon...the typical merger process is relatively slow..DOJ approval doesn't make things move any faster and right now AS seems to have its hands full with its new premium economy product roll-out next year.
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Dec 9, 2016, 12:05 am
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I agree...not gonna happen. I think the best we can hope for is the ability to earn EQMs on VX metal flights....I really don't see the VX product going away for a long time (if ever)....I think AS has realized the safe bet is to keep them separate products for now.
Dec 9, 2016, 5:26 am
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My recollection from the AA/US merger (the only one of the big three which was a merger of non-partners), they had reciprocal FF earning (and burning, I think) in place almost immediately after the corporate merger closed. It was one of the first things to happen, presumably because it's relatively easy to add a new FF partner. Upgrades took a bit longer and had various stages of ugly kludges, but as noted, with VX's very different view of F, upgrades are less clear at best.