Window shades *MUST* be down?
Jun 30, 2014, 9:15 pm
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I can only add that...
to all the idiots on the AMS-SEA flight DL 0152 yesterday who kept their window shades open - I wish you a week of insomnia. OP may be closely related to these people.
Why on a flight where you are on the plane for over 10 hours would people want to keep the window shades open. Even if you aren't sleeping, watch a move. Not much to see out the window for a lot of that flight and most people really want it dark either for movie watching or for sleeping.
Why on a flight where you are on the plane for over 10 hours would people want to keep the window shades open. Even if you aren't sleeping, watch a move. Not much to see out the window for a lot of that flight and most people really want it dark either for movie watching or for sleeping.
Jun 30, 2014, 9:17 pm
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10 hours in a tube with no natural light? Screw that. Buy an eyeshade if it's that big of a deal.
Originally Posted by 33teeth
to all the idiots on the AMS-SEA flight DL 0152 yesterday who kept their window shades open - I wish you a week of insomnia. OP may be closely related to these people.
Why on a flight where you are on the plane for over 10 hours would people want to keep the window shades open. Even if you aren't sleeping, watch a move. Not much to see out the window for a lot of that flight and most people really want it dark either for movie watching or for sleeping.
Why on a flight where you are on the plane for over 10 hours would people want to keep the window shades open. Even if you aren't sleeping, watch a move. Not much to see out the window for a lot of that flight and most people really want it dark either for movie watching or for sleeping.
Jun 30, 2014, 9:21 pm
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Common decency.
Jun 30, 2014, 9:39 pm
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technically speaking, Flight Attendants are supposed to read their announcements from a scripted book. The invitation to recline one's chair doesn't appear anywhere in the book. As a person that prefers to stick to what is asked of us, it does make me slightly hypocritical if I don't really see a problem with this announcement. I guess the reason it doesn't really bother me is because the announcement is meant to make one feel welcome and invite them to be comfortable. It's not meant to make you miserable. I've heard FA's make announcements that are just embarrassing so this one just doesn't bother me. None the less, it isn't part of any of the scripted announcements so probably better just not made.
Jun 30, 2014, 9:42 pm
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Have one. I just don't understand why a person will open the shade (especially when they aren't looking out the window) when it's likely bothering a lot of fellow passengers. Suck it up and try to make things easy for everyone. I could bring some stinky seafood and tell you to bring a nose plug too. Or I could watch movies on a laptop with no headphones (as woman on a BA flight was recently doing) and tell you to get earplugs.
Common decency.
Common decency.
Jun 30, 2014, 9:46 pm
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technically speaking, Flight Attendants are supposed to read their announcements from a scripted book. The invitation to recline one's chair doesn't appear anywhere in the book. As a person that prefers to stick to what is asked of us, it does make me slightly hypocritical if I don't really see a problem with this announcement. I guess the reason it doesn't really bother me is because the announcement is meant to make one feel welcome and invite them to be comfortable. It's not meant to make you miserable. I've heard FA's make announcements that are just embarrassing so this one just doesn't bother me. None the less, it isn't part of any of the scripted announcements so probably better just not made.
Jun 30, 2014, 10:14 pm
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The problem with reclining any airline seat is that now the back of your seat has invaded (if you will) the standing up space of the person behind you. Once the seat pitch was reduced, all airlines have reduced the ability to stand upright. That leads to all those complaints about pushing/banging/pulling on seat backs, or about crushed limbs. If seats reclined the way those recliners that are supposed to be able to be up against a wall reclined (they move forward into their own space, not into the space behind) then we probably would not be hearing over and over about the reclining seat issue. Any crushed knees would be on the person that is doing the reclining. Of course, this is one of those never ending, with no solution issues, destined to be forever more.
Jun 30, 2014, 10:58 pm
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Agree with enjoying the light- real exciting see a jet shoot by on another trek.
Agree with enjoying the light- real exciting see a jet shoot by on another trek.
Jun 30, 2014, 11:03 pm
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I'm always cranky when I miss my nap.
Jun 30, 2014, 11:21 pm
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The problem with reclining any airline seat is that now the back of your seat has invaded (if you will) the standing up space of the person behind you. Once the seat pitch was reduced, all airlines have reduced the ability to stand upright. That leads to all those complaints about pushing/banging/pulling on seat backs, or about crushed limbs. If seats reclined the way those recliners that are supposed to be able to be up against a wall reclined (they move forward into their own space, not into the space behind) then we probably would not be hearing over and over about the reclining seat issue. Any crushed knees would be on the person that is doing the reclining. Of course, this is one of those never ending, with no solution issues, destined to be forever more.
True that. Space is precious onboard these days. I thought I heard that the way the new Recaro seats recline is just as you describe. I don't know that though - and apparently, from reading posts here, I may very well be wrong. All we can do is do our best to make it as painless as possible. Honestly, I don't find it to me any more comfortable when my seat is reclined so i never do.
Jul 1, 2014, 8:52 am
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The problem with reclining any airline seat is that now the back of your seat has invaded (if you will) the standing up space of the person behind you. Once the seat pitch was reduced, all airlines have reduced the ability to stand upright. That leads to all those complaints about pushing/banging/pulling on seat backs, or about crushed limbs. If seats reclined the way those recliners that are supposed to be able to be up against a wall reclined (they move forward into their own space, not into the space behind) then we probably would not be hearing over and over about the reclining seat issue. Any crushed knees would be on the person that is doing the reclining. Of course, this is one of those never ending, with no solution issues, destined to be forever more.
When it comes to window shades, I typically lift my shade during landing so I can see the approach, but otherwise keep it closed, especially on long flights... unless we are flying over some landmark, upon which I'll open the shade. I was on a 787 recently, and most of the windows were shaded, it was lovely.
Jul 2, 2014, 6:43 am
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I pick a window seat on purpose. I like to look out it, I always have. There's always something to see. Even on night time TPACs, I have my window open and I'm looking out. I'm sorry (not really) if some here can't understand and feel entitled to having all shades closed but really, that's too bad. My take on it is that part of what I'm paying for is the view and I'm going to do so. If that FA is on a flight I'm on, they're in for a tough fight.
Jul 2, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Have one. I just don't understand why a person will open the shade (especially when they aren't looking out the window) when it's likely bothering a lot of fellow passengers. Suck it up and try to make things easy for everyone. I could bring some stinky seafood and tell you to bring a nose plug too. Or I could watch movies on a laptop with no headphones (as woman on a BA flight was recently doing) and tell you to get earplugs.
Common decency.
Common decency.