Same Day Confirmed Change (SDC)
Jun 5, 2021, 1:33 am
#376
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Francisco
Programs: Alaska 75K (RIP VX), Hyatt Globalist, BonVoy Plat, National Exec
Posts: 197
With SDC, do I have to keep the same class of service on the new flight?
For example, if I'm in paid F, and want to SDC to an earlier flight that day, but F is full, will they still let me SDC into Y? Or does it have to be same cabin?
Not worried about the downgrade, as it would be a short SFO-SNA jaunt, just wondering what's possible.
Thanks!
For example, if I'm in paid F, and want to SDC to an earlier flight that day, but F is full, will they still let me SDC into Y? Or does it have to be same cabin?
Not worried about the downgrade, as it would be a short SFO-SNA jaunt, just wondering what's possible.
Thanks!
Jun 5, 2021, 7:54 am
#377
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: AS 75k, B6 Mosaic
Posts: 61
SDC or standby for second leg of overnight layover?
I have an overnight layover in LAX. I’d love to take an earlier flight i.e. not have to overnight.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating things slightly, leg 1 is an international arrival. Unsure if I can stay airside for the standby opportunity, given boarding pass #2 is ~16h later.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating things slightly, leg 1 is an international arrival. Unsure if I can stay airside for the standby opportunity, given boarding pass #2 is ~16h later.
Jun 5, 2021, 8:33 am
#378
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 829
To finish this dp, I was able to change both of us for free (from AUS-SEA to an earlier AUS-LAX-SEA) for no charge. The app only showed the earlier non-stop AUS-SEA at check in so I called in and the agent was able to change both res to AUS-LAX-SEA. We were then instantly upgraded to first on AUS-LAX. LAX-SEA was full in F.
Jun 5, 2021, 8:57 am
#379
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
With SDC, do I have to keep the same class of service on the new flight?
For example, if I'm in paid F, and want to SDC to an earlier flight that day, but F is full, will they still let me SDC into Y? Or does it have to be same cabin?
Not worried about the downgrade, as it would be a short SFO-SNA jaunt, just wondering what's possible.
Thanks!
For example, if I'm in paid F, and want to SDC to an earlier flight that day, but F is full, will they still let me SDC into Y? Or does it have to be same cabin?
Not worried about the downgrade, as it would be a short SFO-SNA jaunt, just wondering what's possible.
Thanks!
Jun 5, 2021, 10:54 am
#380
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: LAX/ONT
Programs: AS 100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Marriott G, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 518
I have an overnight layover in LAX. I’d love to take an earlier flight i.e. not have to overnight.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating things slightly, leg 1 is an international arrival. Unsure if I can stay airside for the standby opportunity, given boarding pass #2 is ~16h later.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating things slightly, leg 1 is an international arrival. Unsure if I can stay airside for the standby opportunity, given boarding pass #2 is ~16h later.
Jun 5, 2021, 1:39 pm
#381
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS 75K, BW Plat, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 10,725
There are a number of different fare filings on SEA-LAX which have different routing rules. There are ones that require non-stop travel (these are the cheapest), and there are other ones that allow connections through some other cities, but these are considerably more expensive and I would guess that OP was on a fare that required non-stop routing. Here are the routings allowed for the higher-priced fares: SEA-SEA/RDM/PDX/PAE/GEG/BOI-LAX. The routing rules for a fare can be found on ExpertFlyer (you won't find them on the AS website as they are not in the fare rules themselves). Just because an agent was able to work something out doesn't mean it was an allowed routing for the poster's original fare. The fact that there was an upcharge indicates it wasn't a true SDC and the agent changed from a single fare to a broken fare. From reading AS SDC rules, it doesn't look like routing changes are allowed unless I am missing something.
- You must keep the same origin, destination, thru, and connection cities. Co-terminal changes are not allowed.
Jun 5, 2021, 1:53 pm
#382
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,375
I have an overnight layover in LAX. I’d love to take an earlier flight i.e. not have to overnight.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating thingsslightly greatly, leg 1 is an international arrival. Unsure if I can stay airside for the standby opportunity, given boarding pass #2 is ~16h later.
Is SDC possible for this second leg (only) of my itin? If not, is standby at least worth a shot (i.e. saunter over to my ideal flight rather than exit?)
Complicating things
if you can’t solve it by phone/text/chat once your OLCI window opens, I’d recommend speaking with a supervisor at the AS ticket counter (LAX T6) about getting on the same day’s connecting flight
Jun 6, 2021, 8:05 pm
#383
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
Yes, if you try to do a SDC on the app, you must follow SDC policies about same origin, connection cities, etc....however, multiple flyers (including myself) have been able to change connection cities by requesting SDC through an agent....the general consensus is that as long as it's not too crazy and out of the way, they will allow it if there are seats available. I would still like to book PDX-SEA and see if I can get a SDC that allows a connection--I'm guessing I could possibly get a BOI or GEG, but LAX might be pushing it
Jun 6, 2021, 8:13 pm
#384
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS 75K, BW Plat, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 10,725
True...but officially with SDC you can't change connection cities without a re-fare but agents don't seem to be limited by allowable connection cities associated with the purchased fare.
Last edited by PDXPremier; Jun 6, 2021 at 9:38 pm
Jun 6, 2021, 8:52 pm
#385
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
When the 100K tier is introduced, I wouldn’t mind if AS began enforcing no co-terminal changes as well routing rules for everyone, or even make it a 75K or even 100K perk.
With travel continuing to rise (full planes, UG lists growing in length), I can see the value in have more flexibility to get where one needs to be if fewer elites were able to add additional legs or change start/end cities.
With travel continuing to rise (full planes, UG lists growing in length), I can see the value in have more flexibility to get where one needs to be if fewer elites were able to add additional legs or change start/end cities.
Jun 12, 2021, 4:25 pm
#386
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12,598
When the 100K tier is introduced, I wouldn’t mind if AS began enforcing no co-terminal changes as well routing rules for everyone, or even make it a 75K or even 100K perk.
With travel continuing to rise (full planes, UG lists growing in length), I can see the value in have more flexibility to get where one needs to be if fewer elites were able to add additional legs or change start/end cities.
With travel continuing to rise (full planes, UG lists growing in length), I can see the value in have more flexibility to get where one needs to be if fewer elites were able to add additional legs or change start/end cities.
Jun 13, 2021, 8:59 am
#387
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
People who do that aren't all just a bunch of EQM accumulating FTers. It's often a schedule thing, where even being able to leave an hour or two later but take a connection or fly into or out of a coterminal means the difference between finishing the travel work day and getting home vs spending another night away and flying home the next morning. When I was flying UA regularly they had a sliding scale for what they charged for SDC based on status, and they didn't restrict routing or coterminal changes. Part of the appeal of Alaska is that despite a smaller route network they're generally very accommodating with getting you where you need to be when once your ticket is purchased.
With nearly full flights, it would be nice to see some increased value on the SDC benefit when the 100K tier is introduced.
Jun 13, 2021, 10:23 am
#388
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12,598
This is true, but I believe AS could do something to provide a higher value to their higher tier elites. For example: let 100K's exercise SDC at T-48 hours, restrict co-terminal changes to 100K/75K, let 100K's have a +/-24 SDC window akin to United's SDC (e.g. a 12PM Thursday flight could SDC to the 12PM Wednesday or 12PM Friday flight).
With nearly full flights, it would be nice to see some increased value on the SDC benefit when the 100K tier is introduced.
With nearly full flights, it would be nice to see some increased value on the SDC benefit when the 100K tier is introduced.
Offering SDC at T-48 would be like selling full Y at a discount for some of us - my business travel is rarely booked more than a week out, and often just a few days out. So I could buy whatever the lowest walkup fare for some undesireable departure time, then immediately switch it to the desired time, and could do that with nearly every fare. That would seriously undercut the walkup fare pricing among the people most likely to be paying them.
Jun 14, 2021, 2:55 pm
#390
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
AFAIK Yes. I’ve gone from I class to other F fares and I class down to Y and other economy cares (after giving consent).