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Originally Posted by BOB W
(Post 19791253)
True for the AS-DL code share. For the United coded US flight please take the following steps:
1. Leave security 2. Collect bags 3. Line up at another check-in counter 4. Check bags 5. Potentially pay another baggage fee 6. Clear security and board the next flight Have a nice flight:( If it is the same e-ticket, then that is a direct violation of the new DOT rules. Does anyone know how Orbitz and Expedia tickets itineraries with separate airlines? Whether they group multi-carrier itineraries under one e-ticket # or if they produce two separate e-ticket #s for an one-way non multi-city trip? |
Delta is doing the same as of Jan 15th and this is screwing up my Hawaii trip in Feb. Now I'll end up with almost a 4 hour layover at HNL because of the timing of the next earlier Hawaiian Airlines flight and this forces me to go thru TSA lines again - just creating longer TSA lines for all = delays.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ry-2013-a.html |
Originally Posted by cmh flyer
(Post 19791525)
Delta is doing the same as of Jan 15th and this is screwing up my Hawaii trip in Feb. Now I'll end up with almost a 4 hour layover at HNL because of the timing of the next earlier Hawaiian Airlines flight and this forces me to go thru TSA lines again - just creating longer TSA lines for all = delays.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ry-2013-a.html |
Originally Posted by Doc Savage
(Post 19790609)
How often do you actually have tickets purchased on separate PNRs?
One example: this week we are using a companion fare from ANC to HNL, then connecting to a Hawaiian flight from HNL to LIH (and then doing the same for the return). The HA segments are on a separate PNR since the companion fare is only valid on AS. Another example: my daughter and family live in a small town in the South served only by DL and US Air. Tickets to her location from Alaska are very expensive; it is almost always cheaper to buy two separate tickets, connecting in SEA, ORD, or even DIA (and we often use mileage for the AS segments). I always plan long layovers, but even so we've had a few close calls with delayed departure flights. So it will be carry-on only from now on. |
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 19791530)
If you are already ticketed you should be fine, no?
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The silence on the DL thread is deafening. :confused:
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International carriers are also ending baggage interline on separate tickets. Qantas is now limiting it to OW partners.
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Originally Posted by golfingboy
(Post 19791518)
If it is the same e-ticket, then that is a direct violation of the new DOT rules. Does anyone know how Orbitz and Expedia tickets itineraries with separate airlines? Whether they group multi-carrier itineraries under one e-ticket # or if they produce two separate e-ticket #s for an one-way non multi-city trip?
There are some airlines, DL included, which file fares that can't be ticketed with AS fares. I had to fly on separate tickets SEA-PHX and PHX-BHM because the lowest DL fare did not permit fare combinations with non-SkyTeam airlines. This was not the case with more expensive fares and if DL had availability SEA-PHX, it would not have been a problem. I noticed that DL clarified its policy to allow baggage interlining on conjuncted tickets.
Originally Posted by Delta Air Lines
Policy Clarification: Effective for travel on or after January 15, 2013, Delta Air Lines policy will be to check a passenger's baggage between the origin and destination points that are issued on a single ticket or conjuncted ticket exclusively. If a second ticket is presented for travel on another airline beyond the destination of the first ticket, the passenger will be advised that Delta will only check the bag to the destination on the Delta ticket(s). The passenger must collect the baggage at baggage claim for their Delta ticketed destination, and then re-check their baggage with the down-line carrier for the next flight(s).
This clarification of policy helps Delta ensure that checked baggage service is consistent for all customers. |
Originally Posted by Tide_from_PAE
(Post 19792156)
Originally Posted by Delta Air Lines
This clarification of policy helps Delta ensure that checked baggage service is consistent for all customers.
Please, everyone, send your senators and representatives a copy of the letter drafted by dave1013 above. Send one to Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, too, for good measure. |
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Originally Posted by golfingboy
Originally Posted by BOB W
(Post 19791253)
True for the AS-DL code share. For the United coded US flight please take the following steps:
1. Leave security 2. Collect bags 3. Line up at another check-in counter 4. Check bags 5. Potentially pay another baggage fee 6. Clear security and board the next flight Have a nice flight:( If it is the same e-ticket, then that is a direct violation of the new DOT rules. Does anyone know how Orbitz and Expedia tickets itineraries with separate airlines? Whether they group multi-carrier itineraries under one e-ticket # or if they produce two separate e-ticket #s for an one-way non multi-city trip? |
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Originally Posted by BOB W
The silence on the DL thread is deafening. :confused:
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 19790763)
DOT regs don't prohibit interlined bags on separate tickets.
The regs that went into effect - nearly a year ago - sought to specify which airline rules were followed for fee collection. This is an airline cash grab (AS follows US, HA and DL) with an allusion to DOT regs to disguise it. |
This is going to make some of my connections a lot more 'fun.'
At least with AS I am confident I will get my checked bag in a quick/reasonable amount of time. With DL, who knows how long it might take to get the bags. Factor in 30-45 minutes to get the bag, 10 to recheck it, and another 10 to clear security, that's an hour of wasted time. Typically, I like to book short connections, but wouldn't be comfortable with anything less than 2 hours if I had to recheck. Even then I probably won't have time to get food or stop in the lounge. |
Originally Posted by ANC
(Post 19790741)
Correct its a federal government thing. Dont mean to be cynical but when they are involved there are usually ulterior motives involved
Almost all of the new DOT customer protection regulations, IMO, have been positive for the customers. Like the tarmac delay rule and the requirement to quote all-inclusive fares at the very beginning of the booking process. At JFK a few weeks ago, we were delayed almost three hours and we were stuck on the plane, but the crew did a full beverage service, passed out snacks, left the seat belt sign off, and we were free to roam the cabin or hit the john. Unlike 5 years ago, I would be stuck in my seat getting dehydrated and most of the time the crew won't let me use the bathroom. That behavior by the airlines was inhumane and the DOT had to get involved to protect us. Many people have gotten screwed by the airlines. Like when they book a B6 ticket that is operated by AA where B6 does not charge any baggage fees until they ask for your credit card at the AA counter. This is downright wrong and deceptive. This kind of behavior the DOT is trying to tackle and they would not have to get involved in the first place if the airlines weren't so shrewd. Shame on AS for lying and this is entirely on them, not the DOT. Shame on the employees who supports this new South of Expected move or took part in the implementation of this policy change, particularly those who made this decision :td::td::td: |
Originally Posted by golfingboy
(Post 19793349)
In all fairness to the DOT, their intentions were good, it is the airlines who are "upset" about seeing a slightly diminished revenue stream due to the new regulations and now they are coming up with an excuse to charge people more money.
Almost all of the new DOT customer protection regulations, IMO, have been positive for the customers. Like the tarmac delay rule and the requirement to quote all-inclusive fares at the very beginning of the booking process. At JFK a few weeks ago, we were delayed almost three hours and we were stuck on the plane, but the crew did a full beverage service, passed out snacks, left the seat belt sign off, and we were free to roam the cabin or hit the john. Unlike 5 years ago, I would be stuck in my seat getting dehydrated and most of the time the crew won't let me use the bathroom. That behavior by the airlines was inhumane and the DOT had to get involved to protect us. Many people have gotten screwed by the airlines. Like when they book a B6 ticket that is operated by AA where B6 does not charge any baggage fees until they ask for your credit card at the AA counter. This is downright wrong and deceptive. This kind of behavior the DOT is trying to tackle and they would not have to get involved in the first place if the airlines weren't so shrewd. Shame on AS for being a lying a$_hole and this is entirely on them, not the DOT. Shame on the employees who supports this new South of Expected move or took part in the implementation of this policy change, particularly those who made this decision :td::td::td: |
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