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meballard Dec 10, 2012 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 19803920)
In the situation with the pricing ... yes the regulation is great. It required everyone to be on the same playing field, therefore not penalizing the airline that chose "to do the right thing" ... but when I go to a store in the U.S. they aren't required to add in tax in the advertised price...so why would an airline?

This part I have a response on - sales tax in a store is consistent (based on the location of the store, and since you have to be in that physical location, it's easy enough to find out exactly what it is if you don't know it already), and is generally at a consistent level (under 10% in most areas).

Airline taxes/fees vary considerably more, and it's dramatically higher to find out what it will be (and especially know what it will be), so it's only fair to the consumer to let them know what that will be in advance, and the only practical way to handle that is to show it at the beginning of the booking process, not more towards the end.

That can be even more complicated where different routings can even potentially cause different tax/fee levels...

It is good that it leveled that playing field though.

BOB W Dec 20, 2012 7:53 pm

I wrote my congress critters right after this came out. The only one that contacted me was from Sen. Murkowski's office. The lady I spoke to was completely clueless and a waste of my money since I missed the first call and had to call back.:(

missydarlin Dec 31, 2012 3:08 pm

**UPDATE**

The separate ticket policy has been revised and now only applies to international itineraries.

dave1013 Dec 31, 2012 3:14 pm

Well thanks for the good news, Missy! ^^

A good way to end the old year and start out the new one!

BOB W Dec 31, 2012 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 19950143)
**UPDATE**

The separate ticket policy has been revised and now only applies to international itineraries.

Great News!!

Happy New Year everyone!!!!!!!!!:D

jackal Dec 31, 2012 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 19950143)
**UPDATE**

The separate ticket policy has been revised and now only applies to international itineraries.

That's good. Eastbay1K won't be happy, though. :(

beckoa Dec 31, 2012 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 19950143)
**UPDATE**

The separate ticket policy has been revised and now only applies to international itineraries.

A step (back) in the right direction ^

Hau'oli Makahiki Hou!

AAL Jan 1, 2013 12:32 am


Originally Posted by missydarlin (Post 19950143)
**UPDATE**

The separate ticket policy has been revised and now only applies to international itineraries.

Thank you! That is wonderful news! That policy was going to be a major source of aggravation.

Caveat for travelers: even though AS will continue to check your bags through to another domestic carrier, make sure that the other carrier will also check your bags through to AS on your return flight. On a recent trip, I did not know that HA would not check our bags through from LIH to HNL to our AS flight home; our bags were too large to carry on, so we had to be a bit creative. I would have traveled with just a carry-on if I had known in advance (or taken AS from LIH through SEA, which I will probably do from now on to avoid the hassle and expense of dealing with bags on HA).

beckoa Jan 1, 2013 12:43 am


Originally Posted by AAL (Post 19952015)
Thank you! That is wonderful news! That policy was going to be a major source of aggravation.

Caveat for travelers: even though AS will continue to check your bags through to another domestic carrier, make sure that the other carrier will also check your bags through to AS on your return flight. On a recent trip, I did not know that HA would not check our bags through from LIH to HNL to our AS flight home; our bags were too large to carry on, so we had to be a bit creative. I would have traveled with just a carry-on if I had known in advance (or taken AS from LIH through SEA, which I will probably do from now on to avoid the hassle and expense of dealing with bags on HA).

HA is causing quite the heartache- especially since they provide soo much feeding traffic to other carriers. We really just need our N/S ANC-LIH ;)

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AAL Jan 1, 2013 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 19952029)
HA is causing quite the heartache- especially since they provide soo much feeding traffic to other carriers. We really just need our N/S ANC-LIH

I couldn't agree more - especially on the N/S ANC - LIH!


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 19952029)

Yeah, I don't know how I missed this, or didn't think to check on HA's policy, since I knew that several other carriers were making this change. I guess because we've always checked bags through in the past.

HA really complicates the use of the AS companion certificate to a neighbor island. Fortunately, on our recent trip, my daughter's ticket included both the HA and AS segments, so she was able to check all the luggage for the family.

beckoa Jan 1, 2013 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by AAL

Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 19952029)
HA is causing quite the heartache- especially since they provide soo much feeding traffic to other carriers. We really just need our N/S ANC-LIH

I couldn't agree more - especially on the N/S ANC - LIH!


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 19952029)

Yeah, I don't know how I missed this, or didn't think to check on HA's policy, since I knew that several other carriers were making this change. I guess because we've always checked bags through in the past.

HA really complicates the use of the AS companion certificate to a neighbor island. Fortunately, on our recent trip, my daughter's ticket included both the HA and AS segments, so she was able to check all the luggage for the family.

AS needs QX interisland- or just beef up our ANC-Hawaii service ;)

makfan Jan 2, 2013 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 19790609)
How often do you actually have tickets purchased on separate PNRs?

I have done it AA SFO-LAX AS LAX-YVR. Sometimes it is cheaper (LAX-YVR is often less than SFO-YVR no matter how you route it), and I can get my EXP benefits on the AA segments. I'd never do it if I had to check a bag under these new policies.

makfan Jan 2, 2013 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by kwl747 (Post 19793345)
At least with AS I am confident I will get my checked bag in a quick/reasonable amount of time. With DL, who knows how long it might take to get the bags. Factor in 30-45 minutes to get the bag, 10 to recheck it, and another 10 to clear security, that's an hour of wasted time. Typically, I like to book short connections, but wouldn't be comfortable with anything less than 2 hours if I had to recheck. Even then I probably won't have time to get food or stop in the lounge.

Don't forget minimum bag check times. It's 45 or 60 minutes at some airports.

makfan Jan 2, 2013 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by westcoastman (Post 19802716)
I am thinking the the whole "separate ticket" thing is key. If you go to each individual airline and buy different tickets from them then these rules apply but if you have multiple airlines listed on one AS itinerary but possibly different PNR's then you should be ok since AS is used as feeder flights into longer international flights. Anything else would be completely deceptive by stating the rules apply to "seperate tickets".

Yes, when I buy SFO-LAX-YVR at AlaskaAir.com, it has one ticket number (027) but two PNRs. My AA boarding pass will say in big print (Sold as ASxxxx).

When I buy SFO-LAX at AA.com and LAX-YVR at AlaskaAir.com I have an 001 and an 027 ticket and the new regulations apply if I check a bag.

Ugh. LAX sucks already, and having to go pick up a bag and reclear security makes this a non-starter.

Tide_from_PAE Jan 2, 2013 3:25 pm

Thanks for the good news Missy!

Until the AS system will allow the use of discount codes on the AS portions of mixed-carrier itineraries where one combines an AS fare and another airline's fare, separate tickets are required if one wants to use a discount code. Having one ticket may also save on taxes. I'm running into this issue now with combining a DL BHM-AUS fare and an AS AUS-SEA fare and trying to use one of the baggage delivery guarantee discount codes.

makfan, have you tried calling AS and getting them to ticket the AA-marketed SFO-LAX and the AS-marketed LAX-YVR together. While it might be confusing if you are using both an EXP and MVPG number, the phone agents should be able to ticket it.


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