US DOT rule applicability
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But that's the reality many are facing. Keep in mind:
1. Law or no law, NZ could simply do refund instead of credit without any intervention.
2. As the majority shareholder, the NZ Government can push NZ to refund even without any legislation.
As I have said again and again, this does not happen with the NZ Government's sign-off. Quoting Hon. Grant Robertson, NZ Minister of Finance:
To me, it sounds like the NZ Government failed to act, both in a business and regulatory sense.
1. Law or no law, NZ could simply do refund instead of credit without any intervention.
2. As the majority shareholder, the NZ Government can push NZ to refund even without any legislation.
As I have said again and again, this does not happen with the NZ Government's sign-off. Quoting Hon. Grant Robertson, NZ Minister of Finance:
...Also, the Government owns 52% of the [Air New Zealand], which means we have a responsibility towards it...
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If you bought your ticket in NZ then the CGA and FTA both require a refund if service is not provided. This is also covered by existing case law. Now, a person *could* complain to the Commerce Commission, but as we all know that would be a largely futile effort. But Small Claims exists and works very well.
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The Board and Executive are given significant leeway to act in what they believe to be in the best interests of the company. It is obviously not in the best interests of the company to refund every ticket as this would result in significant cash flow issues.
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The NZ Government literally holds overwhelming power over NZ as the "special" majority shareholder. The directors are independent as none of them affliated with the NZ Government, i.e. no Minister is appointed into the Board. The NZ Government can in fact remove a sitting director as it pleases. So if the NZ Government wants to push a customer-friendly agenda, the NZ Government can do it despite any opposition.
Seriously, NZ is no CX, but CA/SQ. Even publicly listing, NZ is still a SOE bottom line.
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That's not true, per my quick study to the NZ's corporate constitution.
The NZ Government literally holds overwhelming power over NZ as the "special" majority shareholder. The directors are independent as none of them affliated with the NZ Government, i.e. no Minister is appointed into the Board. The NZ Government can in fact remove a sitting director as it pleases. So if the NZ Government wants to push a customer-friendly agenda, the NZ Government can do it despite any opposition.
Seriously, NZ is no CX, but CA/SQ. Even publicly listing, NZ is still a SOE bottom line.
The NZ Government literally holds overwhelming power over NZ as the "special" majority shareholder. The directors are independent as none of them affliated with the NZ Government, i.e. no Minister is appointed into the Board. The NZ Government can in fact remove a sitting director as it pleases. So if the NZ Government wants to push a customer-friendly agenda, the NZ Government can do it despite any opposition.
Seriously, NZ is no CX, but CA/SQ. Even publicly listing, NZ is still a SOE bottom line.
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The NZ Government's ownership in NZ is absolute majority. Also - its corporation document provides a special status to the NZ Government. These are the signs that NZ exists to serve a public purpose, i.e. a SOE.
Beside - many state-owned airlines have done more but still play nice with others. The ME3 problem is mainly due to the fact that ME3 abuses the advantages.
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As for NZ being a SOE, it's not. Under Schedule One of the State-Owned Enterprises Act 1986, only the following are SOEs:
Airways Corporation of New Zealand Limited
Animal Control Products Limited
AsureQuality Limited
Electricity Corporation of New Zealand Limited
KiwiRail Holdings Limited
Kordia Group Limited
Landcorp Farming Limited
Meteorological Service of New Zealand Limited
New Zealand Post Limited
New Zealand Railways Corporation
Quotable Value Limited
Transpower New Zealand Limited
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When 2 airlines are involved on the same ticket and the issuing airlines cancels the route but the other airline is still operating their route what are the DOT rules regarding this? I am thinking the issuing carrier is responsible for refunding all costs. I have NZ and BA segments on the same ticket, NZ has cancelled their segment but is implying that there aren't sure if BA is going to refund the other sector since BA has not cancelled those flights which to me sounds like BS. I paid a single fare to the TA and the NZ record locator pulls up all sectors.
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When 2 airlines are involved on the same ticket and the issuing airlines cancels the route but the other airline is still operating their route what are the DOT rules regarding this? I am thinking the issuing carrier is responsible for refunding all costs. I have NZ and BA segments on the same ticket, NZ has cancelled their segment but is implying that there aren't sure if BA is going to refund the other sector since BA has not cancelled those flights which to me sounds like BS. I paid a single fare to the TA and the NZ record locator pulls up all sectors.
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I can let you know about the current situation and NZ after June 25th at 1:30pm...
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There would be a lot of outrage if the Govt took steps to force Air NZ to do things that where not in their commercial interests.
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At least PWC agrees with me.