New policy for paid and miles upgrades (AF/KL) - sept 2017
#436
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In between PTY, MEX and CPH
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, SAS Eurobonus Silver, Connect Miles Gold, Marriott Lifetime Plat, Hyatt Disc.
Posts: 587
It is actually mindblowing that they can quote you such outrageous buy-up price on their most expensive Y ticket on a 1h50m flight and then, on the same PNR, sell you an upgrade for only 24,000 miles for a 11 hour flight.
Both on CPH-CDG and CDG-PTY sectors, J class was half empty - and yet they offer totally disproportionate prices (if you want to compare prices in miles to prices in cash).
I think at this point it's save to say that theres absolutley no logic behind their offers. Also considering your offer being based on a Mini fare.
Both on CPH-CDG and CDG-PTY sectors, J class was half empty - and yet they offer totally disproportionate prices (if you want to compare prices in miles to prices in cash).
I think at this point it's save to say that theres absolutley no logic behind their offers. Also considering your offer being based on a Mini fare.
#438
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
#439
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28905306-post57.html
#443
#444
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: FlyingBlue Plat
Posts: 500
Is there a way to know in advance how much would an upgrade from Y to J cost on a particular route if I know the booking class of the ticket? I am looking at multiple options for a future TATL trip, and I'm inclined to fly KLM despite a higher price, if I can upgrade to J with miles. However, as KL is significantly more expensive than alternatives, so I'd switch to a competitor if I cannot (afford the) upgrade. I tried calling KLM but I was told they can tell me the cost of upgrade only once tickets are issued.
#445
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
At JFK now boarding to CDG; booked in economy (not sure about the fare code but a cheap one). Didn't get an upgrade offer at OLCI, however I checked at the airport and I was quoted 1719 euros as well to upgrade to business. I saw the sheet with all the cash and points prices but she took ot away too fast for me to remember the amounts.
I was actually booked on a later flight on the A380, and they almost insisted I get on the earlier 777 flight since it was leaving 45 minutes later. Apparently one of the A380 broke down so it was hell to reacommodate everyone.
I did tell the lady at ticketing that those prices were completely insane and she said that they were but it's because there weren't many seats (if any) left at all.
I was actually booked on a later flight on the A380, and they almost insisted I get on the earlier 777 flight since it was leaving 45 minutes later. Apparently one of the A380 broke down so it was hell to reacommodate everyone.
I did tell the lady at ticketing that those prices were completely insane and she said that they were but it's because there weren't many seats (if any) left at all.
#446
#448
Finally, after some time of getting ridiculous quotes from both miles and $$ point of view, managed to do a mileage upgrade for an upcoming flight from ORD-CDG in advance. I believe it is due it being a non ST hub and business is sitll open with ~5 seats and back in coach lots of open seats.
Upgraded from PE (full fare) to J for 22.5k miles. Slightly more than the old price, but did it this time since it was some time ago that I had such a reasonable quote. Too bad it is not the new J, but will survive that short trip.
Cheers!
Upgraded from PE (full fare) to J for 22.5k miles. Slightly more than the old price, but did it this time since it was some time ago that I had such a reasonable quote. Too bad it is not the new J, but will survive that short trip.
Cheers!
#449
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Currently SJO (but also LON and NYC)
Programs: SkyTeam: AF/KL Gold. Star Alliance: CM Gold; AV Gold; UA. OneWorld: BA Sapphire
Posts: 183
I'm booked to fly MEX-CGD in Y on September 5th. Would love to get an upgrade to J, but there is no availability with miles. Any idea how I can request a paid upgrade? The website does not give me the option. I've called the airline but they tell me the only way to upgrade is to pay the fare difference to change to business for the entire itinerary (approximately USD 20K -- ridiculous)
any tips?
any tips?
#450
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
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I'm booked to fly MEX-CGD in Y on September 5th. Would love to get an upgrade to J, but there is no availability with miles. Any idea how I can request a paid upgrade? The website does not give me the option. I've called the airline but they tell me the only way to upgrade is to pay the fare difference to change to business for the entire itinerary (approximately USD 20K -- ridiculous)
any tips?
any tips?
The paid upgrades we discuss in this thread are proposed eventually at OLCI, if there are remaining seats in W or J. If not proposed to you, you can ask at the airport.