Programme update: Roll over of Level Miles above level threshold for Elite members
Feb 22, 2012, 6:38 am
#46
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And still, wait and see... Not used to good news coming from FB.
Feb 23, 2012, 1:31 am
#48
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Feb 23, 2012, 1:34 am
#49
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Actually I just called them to double-check, and they confirmed that it's going to be applicable to 2011 miles. I.e., if you started 2012 with any carried-over miles from 2011 (which would have been any and all of your miles above 115,000) then expect a 45,000 bonus (=115,000-70,000) in june.
And still, wait and see... Not used to good news coming from FB.
And still, wait and see... Not used to good news coming from FB.
Mar 6, 2012, 2:45 am
#50
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Does anyone know if we will be able to carry over miles to more than a year?
Example:
If you earn 210.000 status miles in one year, will you carry over 140.000 miles to the following year and then 70.000 to year+2?
Example:
If you earn 210.000 status miles in one year, will you carry over 140.000 miles to the following year and then 70.000 to year+2?
Mar 6, 2012, 6:22 am
#51
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It's already the case so i don't see any reason why it should change (as in, so far, if you have 250,000 miles in year 1, you'd carry 135,000 in year 2 and would continue to carry over 20,000 in year 3.)
Mar 6, 2012, 6:28 am
#52
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That would be extremely good news for me...
If I do my maths correctly:
I, first, qualified for Platinum status, in October 2005.
Hence if, in 2014, I qualify for Platinum status in 2015, I will have reached 10 years of consecutive Platinum status: 2006 (1) - 2007 (2) - 2008 (3) - 2009 (4) - 2010 (5) - 2011 (6) - 2012 (7) - 2013 (8) - 2014 (9) - 2015 (10)
Since I earned 250K status miles in 2011, that would mean I would carry over 180K to 2012, 110K to 2013 & 40K to 2014. So if between now and the end of 2014, I earn 30K that would make Platinum for life, right?
If I do my maths correctly:
I, first, qualified for Platinum status, in October 2005.
Hence if, in 2014, I qualify for Platinum status in 2015, I will have reached 10 years of consecutive Platinum status: 2006 (1) - 2007 (2) - 2008 (3) - 2009 (4) - 2010 (5) - 2011 (6) - 2012 (7) - 2013 (8) - 2014 (9) - 2015 (10)
Since I earned 250K status miles in 2011, that would mean I would carry over 180K to 2012, 110K to 2013 & 40K to 2014. So if between now and the end of 2014, I earn 30K that would make Platinum for life, right?
Mar 9, 2012, 3:44 am
#53
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I feel robbed from my surplus miles I earned 2004-2010, which were usually in the 20-30K range. I'm going to struggle to get to Platinum this year, even with the 7K miles carried over from last year, and just need one more year of plat to get to be a lifer.
In addition I've pushed business towards one-star after making plat each year, If you count that as well, I would have been there already :-(
BTW, this benefit is mentioned in the cover leaflet of my 2012 card, which I got yesterday
Mar 31, 2012, 1:05 am
#54
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Just read the facebook link. Yes, it says the rollover miles from the 2011 balance will be taken into account mid-2012. So they start with the benefit earlier than I expected because I thought they would not introduce the benefit retrospectively. Maybe people were so annoyed about the credit card change that they felt they had to speed it up. (At least I have no other explanation for this. Normally you would expect an airline to introduce a benefit only when it serves as an incentive for future behaviour.)
How can we tell what our EQM total was from last year?
I just hope that this isn't all a precursor to eliminating LTPE.
That would take me beyond angry.
Mar 31, 2012, 1:17 am
#55
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That might be it. There are lots of us who are angry about losing the credit card EQM's, so at least we'll get a little boost from the extra spending we did last year.
How can we tell what our EQM total was from last year?
I just hope that this isn't all a precursor to eliminating LTPE. That would take me beyond angry.
How can we tell what our EQM total was from last year?
I just hope that this isn't all a precursor to eliminating LTPE.
That would take me beyond angry.Some members have already qualified thanks to the miles they had accrued before this benefit was introduced.
But in all fairness, taking it away before it even became possible for pax to reach it after they became aware of it, would be of the worst nature (certainly not generous).
Mar 31, 2012, 1:28 am
#56
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Kidding aside, I agree with you, but looking at the April fools changes, followed by the Amex-contract-changes I'm not sure what FB is going to do.
Mar 31, 2012, 1:34 am
#57
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As I should be reaching LTPE in 2014, I would certainly feel cheated by FB should they take it away before that. I certainly would not have flown AF so frequently if it were not for this incentive... Should they take it away, I would strive not to fly AF anymore.
Apr 25, 2012, 1:58 pm
#59
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That might be it. There are lots of us who are angry about losing the credit card EQM's, so at least we'll get a little boost from the extra spending we did last year.
How can we tell what our EQM total was from last year?
I just hope that this isn't all a precursor to eliminating LTPE. That would take me beyond angry.
How can we tell what our EQM total was from last year?
I just hope that this isn't all a precursor to eliminating LTPE.
That would take me beyond angry.And what about that special lowered level for Platinum:
"Platinum members benefit even more, since we have also lowered the threshold for carrying forward their level Miles. So they carry forward a greater number of extra Miles, which will automatically appear from mid-2012 in their account."
Apr 25, 2012, 11:17 pm
#60
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Many people would be absolutely mad at them if they were to do so!