AF flight from Rio missing [merged]
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Two French had done everything to embark AF447 ... in vain
A French professor of medicine and his wife had done everything they could to board the Air France Airbus which disappeared into the night, but the plane was full.
"We had an incredible chance. Afterwards, we were scared and have a thought for all those in the aircraft," said his wife Amina who has confessed that she was going to take the plane "with apprehension."
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
"We had an incredible chance. Afterwards, we were scared and have a thought for all those in the aircraft," said his wife Amina who has confessed that she was going to take the plane "with apprehension."
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
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"CNN: "Reports said a search and rescue operation was underway around the Brazilian island of Fernando de Noronha."
Also on CNN Richard Quest is babbling about planes going Oceanic and clearly he has no idea what's going on ..."
Probably the most inappropriate of CNN presenters to deal with something as sensitive as this. He's a buffoon, there's part of me that think's he's a "character" rather than a real reporter.
Kinda sad to think of all the families of those on board.
Also on CNN Richard Quest is babbling about planes going Oceanic and clearly he has no idea what's going on ..."
Probably the most inappropriate of CNN presenters to deal with something as sensitive as this. He's a buffoon, there's part of me that think's he's a "character" rather than a real reporter.
Kinda sad to think of all the families of those on board.
Richard Quest is one of the worst TV reporters on travel and aviation I have ever seen. Really dislike his 'attitude' and fully agree with the above posters.
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An aircraft of this type and size should have a wather radar in it's nose cone, and the flight crew should have been aware of weather before they came across it. My question is, why did they fly into the storms, as opposed to around it?
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AF announced it has located the area where the plane disappeared Monday morning
The CEO of Air France declared that the area of the impact has been located "
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
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If this were the result of a terrorist act, wouldn't we have had someone claiming responsibility by now?
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The CEO of Air France declared that the area of the impact has been located "
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
source: Le Nouvel Observateur
So odd that no distress signal was received by the satellites.
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Is it too much to ask that people stop and catch their breath before posting uninformed speculation and conjecture? Don't we get enough of that from the media? It appears to me that perhaps two or three participants in this discussion have any idea what they're talking about, and the rest of us are just talking out of our a__es.
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Pilots, please correct me if I am wrong
This morning on CNN I saw an overlay of the flight path and the weather radar at the time the plane was passing through. There was a large storm cell directly in the path of the plane, and these cells often reach 50,000 feet in altitude, so it is not possible to fly over them. Flying directly into a thunderstorm can cause catastrophic airframe failure. This happened a few years ago to an Aerolineas Argentinas plane flying over Uruguay, when the pilot inexplicably flew directly into a large complex of thunderstorms.
My understanding is that the Captain has full discretion on setting a course through bad weather, and can deviate from a routing by declaring an in-flight emergency. Is it possible that this particular captain decided to fly through the cell rather than around it, which would have added on probably 45 minutes to the flight time? Or, could the crew have been distracted and not noticed that they were approaching some bad weather?
My understanding is that the Captain has full discretion on setting a course through bad weather, and can deviate from a routing by declaring an in-flight emergency. Is it possible that this particular captain decided to fly through the cell rather than around it, which would have added on probably 45 minutes to the flight time? Or, could the crew have been distracted and not noticed that they were approaching some bad weather?
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May the souls of those lost rest in peace.
I was recently flying on Jet Blue from Orlando and over South Carolina, we came across severe weather. Out the window I could see really dark clouds as high as the plane's altitude with lightning in them. Don't know how far away from the plane they were, but they were close enough to notice clearly. Fortunately, we didn't fly directly through them.
I was recently flying on Jet Blue from Orlando and over South Carolina, we came across severe weather. Out the window I could see really dark clouds as high as the plane's altitude with lightning in them. Don't know how far away from the plane they were, but they were close enough to notice clearly. Fortunately, we didn't fly directly through them.
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This morning on CNN I saw an overlay of the flight path and the weather radar at the time the plane was passing through. There was a large storm cell directly in the path of the plane, and these cells often reach 50,000 feet in altitude, so it is not possible to fly over them. Flying directly into a thunderstorm can cause catastrophic airframe failure. This happened a few years ago to an Aerolineas Argentinas plane flying over Uruguay, when the pilot inexplicably flew directly into a large complex of thunderstorms.
My understanding is that the Captain has full discretion on setting a course through bad weather, and can deviate from a routing by declaring an in-flight emergency. Is it possible that this particular captain decided to fly through the cell rather than around it, which would have added on probably 45 minutes to the flight time? Or, could the crew have been distracted and not noticed that they were approaching some bad weather?
My understanding is that the Captain has full discretion on setting a course through bad weather, and can deviate from a routing by declaring an in-flight emergency. Is it possible that this particular captain decided to fly through the cell rather than around it, which would have added on probably 45 minutes to the flight time? Or, could the crew have been distracted and not noticed that they were approaching some bad weather?
if you can always fly around these CB, you'd hardly hit turbulance...
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Is it too much to ask that people stop and catch their breath before posting uninformed speculation and conjecture? Don't we get enough of that from the media? It appears to me that perhaps two or three participants in this discussion have any idea what they're talking about, and the rest of us are just talking out of our a__es.
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There is an interesting article at http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...55059220090601 that says the weather radar in the nose of the plane is about the only part of the aircraft vulnerable to lightning strikes. So if that got hit, the crew may not have known how bad it was they were flying into.
It did cause me to re-assess my assumption that whenever a flight was in the air it was on radar. Is this true that there are "black holes" where a flight is not on radar anywhere?
My thoughts go out to those on the plane and those dealing with this on the ground.
It did cause me to re-assess my assumption that whenever a flight was in the air it was on radar. Is this true that there are "black holes" where a flight is not on radar anywhere?
My thoughts go out to those on the plane and those dealing with this on the ground.
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To my mind, what is needed is hard facts and a thorough investigation and a moment's thought for the dead.