Self connect 2D - 2D CDG
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Self connect 2D - 2D CDG
Apologies for this being a CDG rather than AF question, however, I trust there is more experience of CDG on this forum.
Looking at the CDG site it appears that even if I have HBO and boarding passes I have to "exit" and re-enter to self connect on this non Schengen to non Schengen trip.
Is this correct or would their be a security check anyway if I followed the yellow signs?
Many thanks in advance
Looking at the CDG site it appears that even if I have HBO and boarding passes I have to "exit" and re-enter to self connect on this non Schengen to non Schengen trip.
Is this correct or would their be a security check anyway if I followed the yellow signs?
Many thanks in advance
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I recently departed from 2D with LH and it was the 1st time there in so many years. It completely changed and I noticed that arriving pax in 2D are now disembarking directly in the terminal and mix with departing pax. So, if you have your BP for the next flight, it's totally fine making an airside connection intra-2D without having to exit and re-enter through security.
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Unless my memory betrays me (it sometimes does
), entrance was on the far left of the terminal, and once passed security we would mix with both departing and arriving PAX. Arriving PAX would simply walk out of the gate where embarking PAX would be waiting, walk to the middle of the terminal and exit to the luggage reclaim area.I have not been there since the opening of the connecting B-D building , I am eager to know what has changed. I read that departure would be through this new building (similar to A-C connecting building).
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This works for pax coming from Schengen countries. However non-Schengen pax (the former 2B gates, more or less) are funneled directly into PAF then baggage claim. I don't think there is any connection facility, meaning that OP will end up clearing PAF as if CDG was the final destionation, leaving the sterile zone and re-rentering at the central (2B/2D) checkpoint upstairs, before reclearing PAF on the way to the former 2B gates.
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This works for pax coming from Schengen countries. However non-Schengen pax (the former 2B gates, more or less) are funneled directly into PAF then baggage claim. I don't think there is any connection facility, meaning that OP will end up clearing PAF as if CDG was the final destionation, leaving the sterile zone and re-rentering at the central (2B/2D) checkpoint upstairs, before reclearing PAF on the way to the former 2B gates.
This would not mean however that there is no security control before reaching the departure area. In fact, it is more than likely that there will be security control.
Last edited by carnarvon; Apr 24, 2022 at 11:16 am
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Indeed, there is no way to transfer airside for a non-Schengen to Schengen at 2D. But anyway, non-Schengen arrivals need to go through Immigration and Security, so I do not see any benefit of an airside transfer especially within the same terminal
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There are a number of airports around the world that are smarter than CDG whereby they declare certain non-Schengen arrivals "clean" and pax don't have to go through security again. For instance, for arrivals from USA, Canada, Singapore, Japan, I believe also UK, and certainly some others, passengers connecting in FRA, MUC, ZRH and I think also AMS do not go through security again. But that would be a bit too customer-friendly for CDG, so, no, not there. AF would love that, as it would make 2E-2F connections a little less stressful, taking out one of the two possible bottlenecks (there still would be immigration).
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All this having been said, neither OP (nor I for that matter) know if one can transfer airside coming from non-Schengen to non-Schegen destination (with a possible security screening), meaning no need for immigration check.
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Thank you all for your assistance. I’ll let you know what happens when I do the trip on 11/05. The U2 and CDG websites are not entirely clear when this scenario is in play and HBO.
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There are a number of airports around the world that are smarter than CDG whereby they declare certain non-Schengen arrivals "clean" and pax don't have to go through security again. For instance, for arrivals from USA, Canada, Singapore, Japan, I believe also UK, and certainly some others, passengers connecting in FRA, MUC, ZRH and I think also AMS do not go through security again. But that would be a bit too customer-friendly for CDG, so, no, not there. AF would love that, as it would make 2E-2F connections a little less stressful, taking out one of the two possible bottlenecks (there still would be immigration).
I consider AF as responsible as ADP, as their main client in terminals 2E/F. Without implementing a central security checkpoint located before immigration at 2E, that would be hard to implement.
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Well first of all 2D is a pretty good terminal following the revamp. Upon disembarking we were all funnelled through past baggage reclaim to the exit, going through passport control on the way.
For any other flight the procedure would have been simple, quick turn right and having boarding pass checked then onwards.
However, flying to TLV I had to go through a separate security at a chaotic EasyJet check in.
This enabled a sticker to be put on my boarding pass.
Once through then I had to clear passport control to then leave the Schengen area and board my flight to TLV.
I had no time to sample the delights of the Terminals the security queues for the flight took two hours.
Thank you all for your help.....I now have a FR stamp in my passport for my 2 hour 30 mins sojourn!
For any other flight the procedure would have been simple, quick turn right and having boarding pass checked then onwards.
However, flying to TLV I had to go through a separate security at a chaotic EasyJet check in.
This enabled a sticker to be put on my boarding pass.
Once through then I had to clear passport control to then leave the Schengen area and board my flight to TLV.
I had no time to sample the delights of the Terminals the security queues for the flight took two hours.
Thank you all for your help.....I now have a FR stamp in my passport for my 2 hour 30 mins sojourn!

