Why are 30A/K (exit window) seats on 787 not premium?

Old Nov 15, 19, 5:56 am
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Why are 30A/K (exit window) seats on 787 not premium?

Row 30 (30A, 30K exit window) seats on AF's 787 configurations appear to be economy selections, unlike the seats in between them. Any particular reason?

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Old Nov 15, 19, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by kthomas View Post
These sets appear to be economy selections, unlike the seats in between them.
IFRC those seats don't have windows - I'm guessing that's the reason why. You would't expect a window on the other seats anyway, so it can be sold with premium. I'd expect a significant amount of PAX would complain if they paid extra for a window seat (and the extra legroom) but realised that there were no window.

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Old Nov 15, 19, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice View Post
IFRC those seats don't have windows - I'm guessing that's the reason why. You would't expect a window on the other seats anyway, so it can be sold with premium. I'd expect a significant amount of PAX would complain if they paid extra for a window seat (and the extra legroom) but realised that there were no window.
Hmm. I thought they had a window last week, but I let the sales guy sit back there. Update in a few days on that one.

Sites such as SeatGuru seem to mark "be aware," but the only obvious note is "proximity to lavatory," which would seem to affect all seats in the otherwise preferable row.
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Old Nov 16, 19, 1:53 am
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Next time it would be nice to ask all your (similar) questions about 787 seating in the same thread instead of starting different ones. Thank you.
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Old Nov 16, 19, 5:41 am
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Old Nov 16, 19, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
Next time it would be nice to ask all your (similar) questions about 787 seating in the same thread instead of starting different ones. Thank you.
I appear to have been on this forum a few years longer than the commenter and am generally capable of deciding whether a question deserves a separate thread or not, depending on how it will affect the search space etc.

These are two (only two!) quite separate questions and someone searching for an answer to one or another in the future is more likely to locate the information they need if they are separate, IMHO (which also happens to be as a search specialist). I generally attempt to design my questions to perform well for someone searching for the same information I'm searching for -- that is, to perform well for another person coming along attempting the same information-retrieval task.

The question of why AF does not designate these seats as premium in some way, seems to be entirely different than whether they and/or other seats are preferable; the only overlap is that the text contains similar words, while the meaning and significance of those words and the information they solicit has almost no overlap.

Please police your own behavior and leave policing myself to me.

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So is it missing a window or not?

We just changed flights and are now on this type plane CDG-MSP...I picked both window seats (free) in row 30. It probably wouldn't make me change seats if missing window...Leg room is more important...but missing window would still go into our decision..

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Old Feb 19, 20, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice View Post
IFRC those seats don't have windows - I'm guessing that's the reason why. You would't expect a window on the other seats anyway, so it can be sold with premium. I'd expect a significant amount of PAX would complain if they paid extra for a window seat (and the extra legroom) but realised that there were no window.
Finally was able to snatch a picture of this row courtesy of the folks over at Flight-Report. As you can see, there is no "direct" window, only the one located on the door, much smaller and not adjustable.
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Old Feb 19, 20, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by kthomas View Post
Row 30 (30A, 30K exit window) seats on AF's 787 configurations appear to be economy selections, unlike the seats in between them. Any particular reason?
Because the exit door itself extends into your leg space, so it's not an "unlimited leg space" seat like the other two.

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IFRC those seats don't have windows - I'm guessing that's the reason why. You would't expect a window on the other seats anyway, so it can be sold with premium. I'd expect a significant amount of PAX would complain if they paid extra for a window seat (and the extra legroom) but realised that there were no window.
I'm a bit confused by your fixation with the "window". It's not because there's no window that the "window" seat is not charged - it's because there's less leg room as the exit door juts out, and see how even the wall of the plane curves out in front of the seat. Together with the lack of storage space, the narrower seat (tray table and screen tucked into it), this would be the last seat I would ever select...
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