End of July-August strike updates
Jul 21, 2011, 2:56 pm
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Anyway, thanks manureva744 for all the information you reported. I'm always happy to see staff feeling positive about their job and with the will to share their experience.
Jul 21, 2011, 3:12 pm
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To come back on topic (apologies for stepping away and thanks to the moderators for tolerating it):
Is there any experience about how longhaul flights from CDG that leave on the morning after the last strike day are impacted? It usually takes a bit of time to get things back in order with all the displaced crews and planes, and the mechanics situation doesn't help. But what has been the experience in the past? I am asking because one of my family members has a flight CDG-YUL on the morning of August 2.
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To come back on topic (apologies for stepping away and thanks to the moderators for tolerating it):
Is there any experience about how longhaul flights from CDG that leave on the morning after the last strike day are impacted? It usually takes a bit of time to get things back in order with all the displaced crews and planes, and the mechanics situation doesn't help. But what has been the experience in the past? I am asking because one of my family members has a flight CDG-YUL on the morning of August 2.
Thanks
Jul 21, 2011, 8:47 pm
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Likelihood of Cancellation
I am flying JFK-CDG in C on July 31 on AF 007 and then back from CDG to JFK on August 7 on AF 006.
What is the likelihood that these flights might be cancelled due to the strikes?
What is the likelihood that these flights might be cancelled due to the strikes?
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Jul 22, 2011, 1:52 am
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Jul 22, 2011, 5:45 am
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Hi guys. Nobody knows which flights will be affected and even if there will be any impact. As said by Manureva744 and Mokshu, talks between unions and AF management are progressing well. So who knows, the strike might be simply cancelled. I hope for this of course as I'm flying BOS-CDG during this period. So just relax and have a glass of wine (or a coffee at the time I'm writing )
)I think I'm going to break out my best bottle of Grande Cuvée Grèves (not Graves) Château Marchais...it is clearly a...red.
Oh, and the vintage? 1968, of course.
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Jul 22, 2011, 10:05 pm
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According to the head of one of the major unions representing flight attendants, an agreement has been reached with AF management on the remaining contentious issues. The draft agreement should be submitted shortly by AF management for signature by the unions.
La direction rédige le texte final et procède, à la demande de Pierre-Henri Gourgeon (le directeur général) à des simulations financières, mais nous sommes tombés d'accord par rapport à nos revendications", a déclaré à l'AFP Philippe Sportes, délégué Unsa, l'un des trois principaux syndicats chez le personnel navigant commercial (PNC, hôtesses et stewards).
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Jul 23, 2011, 1:22 am
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According to the representative of one of the major unions representing flight attendants, an agreement has been reached with AF management on the remaining contentious issues. The draft agreement should be submitted shortly by AF management for signature by the unions.
According to the representative of one of the major unions representing flight attendants, an agreement has been reached with AF management on the remaining contentious issues. The draft agreement should be submitted shortly by AF management for signature by the unions.
As Jouy31 pointed out above, there were also some "lunatics" at BA unions. But BA took a different path and confronted the unions. So there has been a lot of strike threat, legal action and some actual strikes. But BA management has basically won; it created some badwill among some FAs but BA obtained the major reorganization (and financial benefits) it was seeking. By constantly yielding to unions, AF is making very slow progress. It is basically offering pax a low quality product at high labor cost.
Jul 23, 2011, 1:58 am
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Signature of the final agreement is expected to take place at a meeting between management and the unions today at 1100 (local).
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Jul 23, 2011, 3:57 am
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Indeed, but for people travelling during the next week-end, it does mean that the threat of heavy disruptions due to a flight attendant strike is moving away.
Signature of the final agreement is expected to take place at a meeting between management and the unions today at 1100 (local).
Signature of the final agreement is expected to take place at a meeting between management and the unions today at 1100 (local).
Seen from abroad, it is a bit hard to understand the symbolic of union/management at AF (maybe in France in general). With mature negotiating parties one would not have to go through this customary witchcraft dance of announcing strikes and then reaching an agreement most of the times. While it is accepted as symbolic practice in France, AF management should be aware that it is badly hurting them among foreign clients who have choices. Common sense would dictate that either they negotiate beforehand or stand firm once the battle line is drawn.
Jul 23, 2011, 4:01 am
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confirmed: flight attendant strike cancelled
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Les hôtesses et stewards ont levé samedi leur préavis de grève.
Soulagement pour les passagers d'Air France. Les syndicats d'hôtesses et de stewards ont levé samedi leur préavis de grève, prévu du 29 juillet au 1er août
Soulagement pour les passagers d'Air France. Les syndicats d'hôtesses et de stewards ont levé samedi leur préavis de grève, prévu du 29 juillet au 1er août
Jul 23, 2011, 6:10 pm
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Strike called off....
Good news. It looks like the Air France strike has been called off.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76M05320110723
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76M05320110723
Jul 25, 2011, 1:51 am
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Jul 25, 2011, 2:39 am
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Yes, but the strikes of these unions have usually resulted in very few, if any, flight cancellations.