"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
Jul 11, 2019, 12:12 pm
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This is for the flight in question:
AC0033/10JUL EQU ACA77LB01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2015 - 04.49
YVR 2204 2350 01.46 15.30
SYD 0820*2 TOTAL TIME YYZSYD 22.05
RMKS/DELAYED OFF LATE INBOUND AC016 DUE TO ENROUTE WXX. FURTHE
RDELAYED DUE TO NEC ACFT TOW FROM YYZ INTL GATE TO DOMESTIC GAT
E,OUT TIME CHANGED CAPTURED TOW OFF GATE TIME. FIN706-TRACK DEL
AYED DUE TO AC16 WAS DELAYED FOR ENROUTE WEATHER// AC33 DELAYED
DUE TO REQUIRED TOW
YYZ 2100 00:45L YVR 2259 00:55L 77L EQT AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/D39
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ARR TML M GATE --/-----
YVR 0033 00:43L HNL?0648 77L ANP AD AA
HNL?0824 SYD 1015 04:51L 77L ED EA
YVR SYD
DEP TML M GATE --/D51
ARR TML GATE --/-----
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2015 - 04.49
YVR 2204 2350 01.46 15.30
SYD 0820*2 TOTAL TIME YYZSYD 22.05
RMKS/DELAYED OFF LATE INBOUND AC016 DUE TO ENROUTE WXX. FURTHE
RDELAYED DUE TO NEC ACFT TOW FROM YYZ INTL GATE TO DOMESTIC GAT
E,OUT TIME CHANGED CAPTURED TOW OFF GATE TIME. FIN706-TRACK DEL
AYED DUE TO AC16 WAS DELAYED FOR ENROUTE WEATHER// AC33 DELAYED
DUE TO REQUIRED TOW
YYZ 2100 00:45L YVR 2259 00:55L 77L EQT AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/D39
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ARR TML M GATE --/-----
YVR 0033 00:43L HNL?0648 77L ANP AD AA
HNL?0824 SYD 1015 04:51L 77L ED EA
YVR SYD
DEP TML M GATE --/D51
ARR TML GATE --/-----
Last edited by Bohemian1; Jul 11, 2019 at 12:19 pm Reason: Added bolding
Jul 11, 2019, 12:15 pm
#4097
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Jul 11, 2019, 12:22 pm
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Additional sketchy information from CBC that actually mentions CAT:
At least 35 injured from turbulence on Air Canada flight
At least 35 injured from turbulence on Air Canada flight
Jul 11, 2019, 12:46 pm
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Hawaii News Now is reporting 35 injured and 9 transported to a hospital. Doesn’t sound like much fun.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
Jul 11, 2019, 1:10 pm
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Hawaii News Now is reporting 35 injured and 9 transported to a hospital. Doesn’t sound like much fun.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
Jul 11, 2019, 1:38 pm
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Hawaii News Now is reporting 35 injured and 9 transported to a hospital. Doesn’t sound like much fun.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...ries-reported/
According to the report:
- Most injuries were concussions & head injuries as a result of being lifted out of their seats and hitting the ceiling.
- Passenger report: It only lasted 5-10 seconds but it was violent.
- The plane "must have dropped a hundred feet or so."
- People went up to the ceiling through the length of the plane.
- One pax hit the ceiling so hard that she snapped & broke open the oxygen mask container
- There was a lot of panic onboard
- Most injuries were to pasengers without their seatbelts on
- Several flight attendants were also significantly injured
- There's a report that a food cart landed on an flight attendant
Jul 11, 2019, 1:49 pm
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As a frequent 33'er this is of course spooky.
It always gets bouncy over HNL and then subsequently the Equator.
Obviously caught everyone off guard, hope everyone is OK
It always gets bouncy over HNL and then subsequently the Equator.
Obviously caught everyone off guard, hope everyone is OK
Jul 11, 2019, 1:56 pm
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I suspect that's an understatement.
- Most injuries were to passengers without their seatbelts on
As always. Wiser among us surely keep their seat belt at least loosely attached most of the time. Not the first time, won't be the last that this sort of things happens.
Jul 11, 2019, 2:35 pm
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Still wondering if tonight's 33 might make the extra stop.
Jul 11, 2019, 3:17 pm
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After reports of a similar incident on an AC TPAC a couple years ago, I now religiously wear my seatbelt at all times while seated. Hitting my head on the ceiling of an aircraft is not among the experiences I'd like to have in my life.
Jul 11, 2019, 4:42 pm
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One gets used to it; if I had 100 AQM for every time I’ve hit my head on the ceiling of an aircraft (while firmly buckled in), I’d be tops on the SEMM leaderboard. The trick is to keep one’s iPad on a tether so you can fish it from the back of the cabin while flying.
Jul 11, 2019, 4:49 pm
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Jul 11, 2019, 4:56 pm
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I was thinking of this very thing only yesterday on a TATL to help while away the time. I probably had my seatbelt off 8-10 times over the course of a 7.5 hour flight. Twice to go to the washroom, twice to get something out of my suitcase that was overhead, and the other times to get something out of my little backpack, which was under the foot rest: I couldn’t reach it without undoing my seatbelt (I was in an LH business seat). It would have been pretty easy to be unlucky and have the seatbelt undone when the aircraft hit some super rough stuff, but I wouldn’t have called it negligence had it happened.
Jul 11, 2019, 5:09 pm
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Well sure. The trick is to have it on when the severe turbulence hits and to only choose times to undo the seatbelt when you know unexpected severe turbulence will not occur
I was thinking of this very thing only yesterday on a TATL to help while away the time. I probably had my seatbelt off 8-10 times over the course of a 7.5 hour flight. Twice to go to the washroom, twice to get something out of my suitcase that was overhead, and the other times to get something out of my little backpack, which was under the foot rest: I couldn’t reach it without undoing my seatbelt (I was in an LH business seat). It would have been pretty easy to be unlucky and have the seatbelt undone when the aircraft hit some super rough stuff, but I wouldn’t have called it negligence had it happened.
Well, sure. Same for most of us I suppose. Still, significantly reduces the risks. Also, if one happens to be awake and standing, one has a better chance of reacting quickly and to try protecting oneself somehow.