Experiences on refurbished 767's
#31
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 20
agree with Luv2FlyJ
Agree with the comments of luv 2 fly. Flew on January 2 with partner. Could not carry on a converstion for the duration of the flight unless I stood in the aisle. Otherwise shouting at partner.
The pods are excellent for those travelling solo, wanting to get work done, wanting to snooze or sleep.
Always liked the "old" two seats, side by side. Would welcome a choice.
Great service, very good food all the way.
The pods are excellent for those travelling solo, wanting to get work done, wanting to snooze or sleep.
Always liked the "old" two seats, side by side. Would welcome a choice.
Great service, very good food all the way.
#32
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
OT: BA's new Club World Seat
For those interested, link to BA's new Club World seat being progressively introduced since November 2006 with completion expected by spring 2008.
www.newclubworld.com
BA has been offering flat bed since 2000. AC is only about 6 years late.
www.newclubworld.com
BA has been offering flat bed since 2000. AC is only about 6 years late.
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,279
Too bad I didn't have the FT luggage tags with me. Would you have brought up conversation if you saw them? I met KH sitting beside me once on 142 a few months ago... he had a FT-ness about him
#34
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,279
For those interested, link to BA's new Club World seat being progressively introduced since November 2006 with completion expected by spring 2008.
www.newclubworld.com
BA has been offering flat bed since 2000. AC is only about 6 years late.
www.newclubworld.com
BA has been offering flat bed since 2000. AC is only about 6 years late.
Besides, BA has had that kind of branding for awhile.
#35
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YYZ most of the time
Programs: AC SE100K MM, Princess Elite
Posts: 3,921
I'll give you all a TR on their CW seats in a couple of weeks. I'm tasting them very soon. Perhaps for the first of many trips with BA.
Have you looked at CX's new J product? Or their new F? Who really needs a 16:9 17" Wide Screen PTV???
Have you looked at CX's new J product? Or their new F? Who really needs a 16:9 17" Wide Screen PTV???
#36
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,279
So far I haven't had the misfortunes that you've encountered to cause an order from the J/F tasting menu of airlines...
#37
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YYZ most of the time
Programs: AC SE100K MM, Princess Elite
Posts: 3,921
I've been a huge supporter of AC over the years. I've even managed to get 4 Elite members under my wing here at work. Caused purely by showing them the good side of AC. I never thought in a million years that I would ever find myself travelling on a *O carrier. That is tantamount to blasphemy. How the winds of change have blown through this life. We shall see if it is a short change of fortunes or a permanent change.
#38
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North of YYZ
Programs: AC*E, Hertz Gold, SPG
Posts: 102
#39
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YYZ most of the time
Programs: AC SE100K MM, Princess Elite
Posts: 3,921
nice... you know you're in a quality F product when the IFE screen is bigger than your home computer screen I'll have to add that to my list of things to do before I die.
#40
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YEG
Programs: AC SE 2MM, SPG Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 139
#41
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Falmouth, NS
Programs: AC APE, AA
Posts: 235
AC 849 Jan 3 Fin 636
Flew AC 849 LHR-YYZ Jan 3rd with my wife. Assigned 7A and 8A. I agree with the comments of Luv2fly and malpas except that on this flight the FA's were knowledgable and did everything possible to keep the systems operating.
Additional comments:
I found the pod to be very confining. The lie flat position was very uncomfortable. If you are claustrophobic these seats may not be for you. Almost impossible to carry on a coversation. If you like privacy its great. if you are travelling with someone, not so great.
Loved the AVOD except my fvourite feature, the route map, is not yet working.
When we boarded 3 of the seats 3K, 6A and 6K were unservicable.
My seat recline system, 8A, was also found, after takeoff, to be not working and could not be reset. Luckily there was another seat available where evrything worked. The tray table on 7A would not extend. Mrs freedom had to move to another seat for dinner. Very difficult to extend tables. Watch you don't pinch your fingers. The whole pod appears to be flimsy. Really wonder how durable this configuration will be?
Only 24 seats in J Going to be much more difficult to upgrade.
Overall, the new J looks great. The "WOW" factor will impress a lot of people. Once beyond the "WOW" however I was not impressed. Everything considered I think the A330 and A 340-300 J class is a more comfortable way to travel.
Additional comments:
I found the pod to be very confining. The lie flat position was very uncomfortable. If you are claustrophobic these seats may not be for you. Almost impossible to carry on a coversation. If you like privacy its great. if you are travelling with someone, not so great.
Loved the AVOD except my fvourite feature, the route map, is not yet working.
When we boarded 3 of the seats 3K, 6A and 6K were unservicable.
My seat recline system, 8A, was also found, after takeoff, to be not working and could not be reset. Luckily there was another seat available where evrything worked. The tray table on 7A would not extend. Mrs freedom had to move to another seat for dinner. Very difficult to extend tables. Watch you don't pinch your fingers. The whole pod appears to be flimsy. Really wonder how durable this configuration will be?
Only 24 seats in J Going to be much more difficult to upgrade.
Overall, the new J looks great. The "WOW" factor will impress a lot of people. Once beyond the "WOW" however I was not impressed. Everything considered I think the A330 and A 340-300 J class is a more comfortable way to travel.
#43
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Programs: AC Nothing, Delta Gold
Posts: 166
Since the seats are in the pod do they still have to be in the "fully upright and locked position" for takeoff and landing? Flew on an NZ 777 in the spring and there was no requirement for the seats to be upright for takeoff or landing. In fact the FAs were coming around and encouraging us to make ourselves comfortable for takeoff - feet up on the footstool, seat reclined, and orange juice in the cupholder. Headphones were allowed. The only requirement was that the video display had to be stowed, although it was fully functional, and any luggage had to be stowed.
A real nice treat after being forced to sit upright all the time.
A real nice treat after being forced to sit upright all the time.
#44
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: YOW
Programs: AC E75K *G
Posts: 7,111
Since the seats are in the pod do they still have to be in the "fully upright and locked position" for takeoff and landing? Flew on an NZ 777 in the spring and there was no requirement for the seats to be upright for takeoff or landing. In fact the FAs were coming around and encouraging us to make ourselves comfortable for takeoff - feet up on the footstool, seat reclined, and orange juice in the cupholder. Headphones were allowed. The only requirement was that the video display had to be stowed, although it was fully functional, and any luggage had to be stowed.
A real nice treat after being forced to sit upright all the time.
A real nice treat after being forced to sit upright all the time.
So what have the cabin crew been saying to pax about these flights?
#45
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: YVR, YUL, YEG
Programs: AC-SE MM, Marriott Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 273
Since the (valid) explanation for traditional seats being upright with the tray stowed is to create the maximal space for pax to navigate through rows of seats in an evacuation, one might expect that since there is no difference in cabin manoeuvrability no matter what position an empodded seat is in, that the seat could be in any position.
So what have the cabin crew been saying to pax about these flights?
So what have the cabin crew been saying to pax about these flights?