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airbus320 Aug 26, 2005 9:28 am


Originally Posted by luxury
I miss CBC Radio 2 as that is where I get my fix of classic music.

Thankfully that music is still on air.

luxury Aug 26, 2005 9:42 am


Originally Posted by airbus320
Thankfully that music is still on air.

Yes, but it isn't the same -- has a distinctly "canned" sound and feeling to it.....

Simon Aug 26, 2005 4:25 pm

?u@now, Shareholder considers you a pirate and a thief because you are illegaly viewing a television signal that we are not "allowed" to watch here in Canada, and stealing from the rights holders of the programs that you are watching as they have not been licensed (and $ paid) for distribution in Canada through the medium you are using.

That being said, personally, I believe that the CRTC is the thief for stealing away the opportunity to subscribe to DirecTV in Canada and instead leaving us with muck like TMN. No doubt some will come back with the usual tired "but you can get the Sopranos", however for those who have tasted the alternative, there is no going back to believing that Rogers et al cut it. On DirecTV, we could always find something commercial and entertaining to watch. On Rogers, unless there is something on the networks, it is generally all junk all the time in the summer -- again for someone who likes commercial eye candy as opposed to documentaries, Canadiana, reruns, etc.

You're just lucky you have somewhere/someone in the US to use as an address :)

p.s. What's a CBC?

parnel Aug 26, 2005 4:35 pm

For those of you in the GTA listening to jazzfm91 is much better than CBC2 and is pretty much non commercial. Plays great jazz which I listen to while being my humble self on FT and in my car and on the road. listening to a TO jazz station while in deepest darkest India brings some reality back to life.

parnel Aug 26, 2005 4:39 pm

[QUOTE=Simon]?u@now, Shareholder

That being said, personally, I believe that the CRTC is the thief for stealing away the opportunity to subscribe to DirecTV in Canada and instead leaving us with muck like TMN.
Well said;the socialists continue to limit our freedoms. I guess that's why so many here defend the way Canada treats Cuba. They like intellectual prisons :rolleyes:



p.s. What's a CBC?
It's a disease called Liberalism :D And it seems like there is no cure :rolleyes:

?u@Now Aug 26, 2005 4:47 pm

[QUOTE=Simon]?u@now, Shareholder considers you a pirate and a thief because you are illegaly viewing a television signal that we are not "allowed" to watch here in Canada, and stealing from the rights holders of the programs that you are watching as they have not been licensed (and $ paid) for distribution in Canada through the medium you are using.

That being said, personally, I believe that the CRTC is the thief for stealing away the opportunity to subscribe to DirecTV in Canada and instead leaving us with muck like TMN. No doubt some will come back with the usual tired "but you can get the Sopranos", however for those who have tasted the alternative, there is no going back to believing that Rogers et al cut it. On DirecTV, we could always find something commercial and entertaining to watch. On Rogers, unless there is something on the networks, it is generally all junk all the time in the summer -- again for someone who likes commercial eye candy as opposed to documentaries, Canadiana, reruns, etc.

You're just lucky you have somewhere/someone in the US to use as an address :)
QUOTE]

Funny I can listen to a Jazz radio station on the Internet from the UK, but I'm not able to view a satellite signal (that I'm paying for) from the US. The market in Canada for DirecTV has spoken and the number of these dishes up here and Canadians subscribing to the service is huge. The CRTC and their political protectionism is out dated and technology will continue to make them obsolete. DirecTV and their programming is better, or I would not go to the hassle to have this service in my home.

Rejuvenated Aug 26, 2005 5:34 pm

Just got back to YVR this afternoon. Guess I'll be watching VTV tonight!

Hogtowner Aug 26, 2005 7:07 pm

I miss CBC radio the most. The World at Six and As It Happens are a great accompaniment on the drive home. Also like the drive time local shows in Toronto.....most commercial stations are unlistenable due to just that: the commercials.

CBC TV is not as important to me. I do like the news (I agree, CTV news blows) and some of the current affairs programming. The only other things I will watch are comedies/satires: Made in Canada, The Newsroom, 22 Minute (before Mercer and Walsh left and it got kind of crappy).

One of my neighbours is a CBC journalist, so I have been getting the union side of the story from him. The issue of contract workers vs permanent staff is a huge one and neither side is going to cave easily. One take on the lock-out is that if CBC management can provide decent hockey coverage then it will be a long lockout. If the viewing public gets loud about the hockey then all bets are off.

pitz Aug 27, 2005 3:19 am

I'm not usually a fan of the CBC, or its use as an instrument of social engineering, but I must say that the quality of the programming by CBC's locked out employees has risen dramatically now that they are freed of the shackles of their employers.

Do a search for the podcasts. Excellent programming, and undoubtely, implemented and distributed for significantly less money than the CBC workers could ever do under an obviously incompetent management team.

This lockout has been the ultimate in 'employee empowerment', and it has been a huge success and has shown just how stifling the politically appointed management team has been in managing the public broadcaster.

Shareholder Aug 27, 2005 8:35 am


Originally Posted by ?u@Now
How's that Shareholder? I didn't say I use a hacked card. I pay for this service each month!


Not legally from Canada you don't. Only if you have a US address, which violates the Canada/US Treaty on satellite reception. DirectTV cannot market into or to Canadians. None of the US networks you receive on DirectTV have obtained rights to sell or distribute their programs into Canada or Mexico. Thus you are pirating and illegal commecial product.

Shareholder Aug 27, 2005 8:38 am


Originally Posted by ?u@Now
As for radio I added XM satellite to my car and really enjoy the non stop music without commercials or DJ's

Yet one more pirated illegal service from the USA you are buying in contravention of Canadian laws. Dear, dear...

As for your PM, ask Mr. Harper, the contention comes from his new TV ads.

parnel Aug 27, 2005 8:38 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder
Thus you are pirating and illegal commecial product.

Or the feds are denying us our legal rights to access anything we want to. I think a little anarchy in this case is good

Shareholder Aug 27, 2005 8:42 am


Originally Posted by pitz
I'm not usually a fan of the CBC, or its use as an instrument of social engineering, but I must say that the quality of the programming by CBC's locked out employees has risen dramatically now that they are freed of the shackles of their employers.

Do a search for the podcasts. Excellent programming, and undoubtely, implemented and distributed for significantly less money than the CBC workers could ever do under an obviously incompetent management team.

This lockout has been the ultimate in 'employee empowerment', and it has been a huge success and has shown just how stifling the politically appointed management team has been in managing the public broadcaster.


Of course, they'd never work for $200 a week at the CBC. More like a minimum of $200 a day. Nor would they put up with such innovative work rules if they were still at the CBC, as they'd grieve having to do various jobs that their comrades would otherwise be doing.

Outside of the president, none of CBC's management is "politically appointed". In fact, they all started out in the ranks as announcers or producers or program organizers and have been promoted to their current levels of incompetency by their peers, not by politicians.

airbus320 Aug 27, 2005 10:34 am

Feds will not intervene in the dispute
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ent/?query=cbc

YOWkid Aug 27, 2005 11:21 am

And nor should they intervene.


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