mints should be the least of your worries

I still got the impression that (reading between the lines and some innocent comments) that frequent flyers, especially those d*mn SEs and instant kk) are seen more as an expense than a revenue item. quote from BlondeBomber




Hi Simon- It was Blondebomber's quote that precipatated my observation about instant KK. Obviously, I'm a big supporter of instant KK, maybe too big a supporter for some, so I'm pleased to hear that AP holds the benefit in high esteem.

And that's why we signed the waivers!

I disagree. I think more people are in it for the upgrades. I think KK would be tied for second along with priority handling features like the concierge service.

But with greatly diminished points earning potential for most people, they are even reducing the opportunities SEs will have to actually take advantage of the Instant KK feature.

I agree - lots of folks go for top-tier benefits on other carriers, and instant KK is not among those benefits. So although it certainly plays a factor, I doubt that claims of instant KK being "by far the primary" benefit that most people consider is probably wishful thinking on the part of beaubo.

Instant KK is right up there with me but if I had to choose between U/G's and instant KK it would be a toss up and I love getting U/G's.
I have used instant KK many times including booking flts six months out and just knowing its there is awfully nice.

A reasonable point but think instant KK is more important on AC because of AC's "worst in class" reward seat availability. If you are with AA, DL, NW, CO etc you know that you have guarenteed access to reward seats (albeit at 175-200%) for all seats even as a basic member.

This isn't the case with AC. Drop below SE and you may not be able to get the reward seats you want. Elites only have access to the back cabin through instant KK, and Prestige and Basic don't have access at all. This just isn't the case with the other N American airlines where all members can get the seats they want.

I'm sure that there are some SEs who don't care about instant KK. However, given ACs lousy reward seat availability I think it is more important with this airline than with others.

So now we know the real identity of Cpt K

Yep, that 's the value right there!!

Well , I just arrived back home well actually at 9:30 PM JST. I had a great time......I was very well taken care of on all my flights , and I intend to make a full report to Anne the concierge about my seatmate......
I would also really like to thank Shannon the "new" In-Charge for having run such a great flight. It is not that often that I see a crew work so flawlessly. A quick note though that 3 of 8 lavatories were in-op on the 13+ hour flight.
Special ^ ^ ^ to Parnel, Nordsfan , backseat , acysb87 , yycguy2 ! Pics are on the way........

Also would like to thank Lucie G., George R., for hearing me out!

I will be joining Parnels class action law suit against blue 2002 as I had to stand the entire way to Narita due to my back strain from his "hard" landing !

I vote in favour! I think some form of lifetime status for SE's should recognise their huge lifetime revenue contribution to AC. They have large mileage balances in return but if they are not able to use them after retirement or a slowdown in flying their value is very much diminished. That's why continuation of instant KK for SE's who've reached a lifetime threshold is the way to go. It will be limited by the member's mileage balance. It could also be tied to some continuing loyalty. Instant KK is number one for a lifetime recognition program. My thoughts for the innovation team.

You have our admiration for coming such a long way for the DO..I wonder if its an FT record.
We all enjoyed meeting you and maybe a couple of us might consider a mileage run if you can promise my potential travel partner that the sushi is better there than in Oakville.

Oh.... my aching back and I'm standing to type this

Do tell!

Would the nifty Japanese anti-germ mask you gave me in the MLL prior to departure have made the situation any better ?

I sure got some funny looks when I boarded the YUL-YQB DH8 wearing it !

The sushi is not only better,more colorful as well.(think mints )