IRROPs - Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. WITHIN 48 HOURS of departure (2022)
Jun 29, 2022, 10:23 am
#61
Join Date: Apr 2018
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Jesus, there are not a lot of flights to BDA today, and what the hell is happening over on the east coast today? AA has a bunch of seats left on that 18:55 MIA-BDA flight, if you can figure out a way to get there. I spent a few minutes poking around EF trying to think of various combos that would get you from YOW or YUL to MIA in time for that flight, and none were working. Everything is basically sold out on every airline that EF pulls up. J0 Y0 for YYZ-MIA, YUL-MIA, NYC-MIA, BOS-MIA, etc that would get you there in time for that flight. If you can figure something out that gets you from YOW or YUL to MIA that involves some combination of AC, UA, AA, and DL, you can ask AC to re-book you on it. But I didn't see anything.
Actually, UA has seats on the 11:33 EWR-BDA. They also have 4 seats (although only in J) on the 6AM YOW-EWR flight, which would leave you plenty of time to connect. Or if you can get yourself to YUL (the first YOW-YUL of the day is also cancelled), you can potentially take AC8938. At 74 minutes, looks like that's not a legal connection, but in IRROPs, sometimes agents can do stuff they normally wouldn't.
Actually, UA has seats on the 11:33 EWR-BDA. They also have 4 seats (although only in J) on the 6AM YOW-EWR flight, which would leave you plenty of time to connect. Or if you can get yourself to YUL (the first YOW-YUL of the day is also cancelled), you can potentially take AC8938. At 74 minutes, looks like that's not a legal connection, but in IRROPs, sometimes agents can do stuff they normally wouldn't.
Jun 29, 2022, 1:52 pm
#62
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Came into YYZ early today as I am off to IAD and then AUH. Security was a breeze as i was the only one at the time and customs was just as fast. Walked passed the customer service desk where there is a long line, but four to five agents. So many cancelled flights and delayed flights. Mine is only delayed 1.20 so far, lol.
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Jun 29, 2022, 5:14 pm
#63
Join Date: Jun 2022
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Would love some thoughts on this situation: I'm due to fly YQT-SFO tomorrow (June 30) via YYZ. I've already checked in online and this evening received notification that I've been "re-accommodated" on a new flight. Instead of leaving Thunder Bay on AC8554 at 10:55am 6/30 with a 4hr layover to connect to AC743 for YYZ-SFO, I've been moved to the next day (July 1) on a flight leaving YQT at 12:35pm AC8558. YYZ-SFO still the same flight just a day later. This cuts my connection time down to 2.5hrs and I saw the US connections line coming in - it was not pretty. And of course it's a day later - not great, but mostly I just don't want to get stuck in Pearson overnight because I missed that late flight.
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
Jun 29, 2022, 5:42 pm
#64
Join Date: May 2003
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Would love some thoughts on this situation: I'm due to fly YQT-SFO tomorrow (June 30) via YYZ. I've already checked in online and this evening received notification that I've been "re-accommodated" on a new flight. Instead of leaving Thunder Bay on AC8554 at 10:55am 6/30 with a 4hr layover to connect to AC743 for YYZ-SFO, I've been moved to the next day (July 1) on a flight leaving YQT at 12:35pm AC8558. YYZ-SFO still the same flight just a day later. This cuts my connection time down to 2.5hrs and I saw the US connections line coming in - it was not pretty. And of course it's a day later - not great, but mostly I just don't want to get stuck in Pearson overnight because I missed that late flight.
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
Jun 29, 2022, 8:31 pm
#65
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First flight currently has 8 open seat. YYZ-SFO has 5, but they are all in PY & J
If you misconnect, you may get a reroute to SFO or a hotel. But in all likelihood, if YYZ is a mess, even your SFO flight will be a mess.
Last edited by expert7700; Jun 29, 2022 at 9:10 pm
Jun 29, 2022, 8:37 pm
#66
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 16
Would love some thoughts on this situation: I'm due to fly YQT-SFO tomorrow (June 30) via YYZ. I've already checked in online and this evening received notification that I've been "re-accommodated" on a new flight. Instead of leaving Thunder Bay on AC8554 at 10:55am 6/30 with a 4hr layover to connect to AC743 for YYZ-SFO, I've been moved to the next day (July 1) on a flight leaving YQT at 12:35pm AC8558. YYZ-SFO still the same flight just a day later. This cuts my connection time down to 2.5hrs and I saw the US connections line coming in - it was not pretty. And of course it's a day later - not great, but mostly I just don't want to get stuck in Pearson overnight because I missed that late flight.
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
The weird thing is, when I go online to look at options and check to see if I could still fly tomorrow my whole original flight schedule is STILL there. There's no change of aircraft and no indication that set of flights won't go out.
What happens if I just... set myself back to the original? I guess the worst is I go to the airport in the morning and it's a no go? I can't call AC - not only are they backed up on taking calls, they're so backed up they can't even put you on hold right now. Oh, and their website is barely crawling. Half-joking... should I just drive to MPLS and fly Delta from there (of course I should, should have done that to start with!).
Jun 29, 2022, 8:48 pm
#67
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And so it begins, but with soothing words:
Right now, "Airport Control" appears to equate to "Eventual Cancellation".
We know how stressful it can be when travel plans get interrupted. You'll receive a separate email from us about getting your travel plans back on track, because we want to get you on your way as soon as possible.
Jun 30, 2022, 11:49 am
#68
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Air Canada Cancel flights for tomorrowe - No way to reach them via call center
Air Canada cancels my flight ORD-YYZ for tomorrow, Friday July 1st
Right now I can't reach Air Canada because they are neither answering the phone nor putting people on hold.
What to do? I have never seen an airline not answering the phone unless they are liquidated. This is insane.
Right now I can't reach Air Canada because they are neither answering the phone nor putting people on hold.
What to do? I have never seen an airline not answering the phone unless they are liquidated. This is insane.
Jun 30, 2022, 11:54 am
#69
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Posts: 1,511
Air Canada cancels my flight ORD-YYZ for tomorrow, Friday July 1st
Right now I can't reach Air Canada because they are neither answering the phone nor putting people on hold.
What to do? I have never seen an airline not answering the phone unless they are liquidated. This is insane.
Right now I can't reach Air Canada because they are neither answering the phone nor putting people on hold.
What to do? I have never seen an airline not answering the phone unless they are liquidated. This is insane.
If you can get to ORD early that might be your best bet. Otherwise keep trying to call and hope to luck out. They have said the app/site will allow rebooking as well, so you could try that and see if there is any way to do so. (See here for special provisions for flights going to or from YYZ.)
Jun 30, 2022, 12:06 pm
#70
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Correct. This is AC8914.
I do not mind flying on the United Airlines flight that leave right before or right after, but they need to rebook me. Right now it says cancelled and they leave me to hand dry while not even putting people on hold. The line is hanging up, I am 24hr before my flight.
I have gove through the Comair South Africa liquidation and even that was better handled. Not answering phone line is just insane. I am wondering what the DOT will think about this.
I do not mind flying on the United Airlines flight that leave right before or right after, but they need to rebook me. Right now it says cancelled and they leave me to hand dry while not even putting people on hold. The line is hanging up, I am 24hr before my flight.
I have gove through the Comair South Africa liquidation and even that was better handled. Not answering phone line is just insane. I am wondering what the DOT will think about this.
Jun 30, 2022, 12:14 pm
#71
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YUL
Posts: 1,007
Did you look at your booking online, there maybe an option to change flights there.
Jun 30, 2022, 12:15 pm
#72
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Instead of waiting on the phone what I would do is go to aeroplan.com and just buy the United flight with 6000 miles (buy miles if you have to). Time is of the essence here since everyone else will be trying to get on the same flight etc.
https://www.aircanada.com/aeroplan/r...marketCode=TNB
Deal with refunds later
https://www.aircanada.com/aeroplan/r...marketCode=TNB
Deal with refunds later
Jun 30, 2022, 12:43 pm
#73
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Jun 30, 2022, 2:18 pm
#74
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I guess the shoe has dropped with the AC CEO announcement of flight cancellations. Whole bunch of flights cancelled starting from tomorrow. Its going to be a gong show at many airports as schools just ended here and there will be irate people steaming all over the airport.
Security line at YYZ as an example yesterday was the length of the airport.
Security line at YYZ as an example yesterday was the length of the airport.
Jun 30, 2022, 2:24 pm
#75
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AC did announce that they have a new and improved rebooking tool. You could try that? I wasn't able to get it to work on my upcoming flights that were cancelled/changed, but apparently it works for some people some of the time.