2023 schedule updates - new/cancelled routes, frequency/equipment changes, etc
Jan 24, 2023, 4:35 pm
#76
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Just curious with China opening up, how long does it usually take for Air Canada to reintroduce the flight route? Could they start flying within months or does it take longer? I've seen airlines "introducing" flights for the latter half of the year, so just wondering even if China reopens, there's no way for AC to start flying before the summer.
Air Canada in late-January 2023 plans to resume nonstop service to Mainland China, which sees the airline operates Vancouver – Shanghai Pu Dong route on nonstop basis. From 31JAN23
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acpvg
Air Canada ...... plans to increase capacity on Montreal – Tokyo Narita route, as the airline schedules 450-seater Boeing 777-300ER service from 21SEP23 to 27OCT23, Montreal departure
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acnrt
Last edited by Adam Smith; Jan 25, 2023 at 10:48 pm Reason: Fixed link
Jan 25, 2023, 7:04 pm
#77
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Air Canada in late-January 2023 plans to resume nonstop service to Mainland China, which sees the airline operates Vancouver – Shanghai Pu Dong route on nonstop basis. From 31JAN23
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acpvg
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acpvg
I forgot that YVR-PVG isn't daily, they do sell same day connections.
Last edited by m.y; Jan 25, 2023 at 8:36 pm
Jan 25, 2023, 8:12 pm
#78
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AC moved YVR-PVG to leave at 10:40am, which allows for connection from the first flight from YYZ that arrives at 8:51am but AC is not selling that connection when you try to book YYZ-PVG, only offering overnight connections. It's puzzling that AC is going to give up the China market from YYZ.
But, the fares are insane. CX has a decent PE fare from YYZ to PVG ($1347) with a 2.5 hour layover in HK.
Jan 25, 2023, 8:17 pm
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Air Canada ...... plans to increase capacity on Montreal – Tokyo Narita route, as the airline schedules 450-seater Boeing 777-300ER service from 21SEP23 to 27OCT23, Montreal departure
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acnrt
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230124-acnrt
Jan 25, 2023, 10:49 pm
#82
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This seems to be a pretty successful route. Not a long time with the HD 77W, but that's a big upgauge from the 789. Didn't they only first announce this route shortly before COVID?
Last edited by Adam Smith; Jan 26, 2023 at 7:38 am Reason: Corrected typo
Jan 26, 2023, 4:26 am
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Largely for the Fall changing of the leaves which is a huge draw for Japanese traffic. There have been separate charters in the past run by ANA and JAL specifically for this event.
Jan 26, 2023, 6:35 am
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360/7 = 1 lav for every 51.4 pax
I would say the 2.5% difference constitutes a "bit" rather than "quite a bit".
Last edited by The Lev; Jan 26, 2023 at 6:58 am
Jan 26, 2023, 7:15 am
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The operative words being "in Y". Yes the PY lavs on the HD are generally accessible from Y if you can get to them. But if you're counting lavs in Y for Y passengers specifically the ratios are 336/7 (48) vs 398/6 (~66.3). In practice it's a noticeable difference, to me anyway.
Feb 3, 2023, 9:20 pm
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YEG-YOW resumes daily on May 1
Feb 3, 2023, 9:53 pm
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FINALLY
just in time for Doors Open
timing kinda sucks compared to the old YEG-YOW flight
YOW dep. 16:25 arr. YEG 18:42
YEG dep. 19:45 arr. YOW 01:33
the old flight (flights?) was a midnight red-eye eastbound but at least arrived in the morning so I could catch the first bus out...
at least there's still a tiny bank of flights arriving at this time, some international as well
just in time for Doors Open
timing kinda sucks compared to the old YEG-YOW flight
YOW dep. 16:25 arr. YEG 18:42
YEG dep. 19:45 arr. YOW 01:33
the old flight (flights?) was a midnight red-eye eastbound but at least arrived in the morning so I could catch the first bus out...
at least there's still a tiny bank of flights arriving at this time, some international as well
Last edited by asovse1; Feb 3, 2023 at 10:03 pm
Feb 4, 2023, 4:22 am
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Still no Air Canada flights to Europe from Ottawa......but we're getting an Air France one to Paris.
Feb 4, 2023, 9:07 am
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They appear to be cutting the second daily YOW-YYC/YYC-YOW flights to offer the YOW-YEG flights. There's now only a very early morning departure on YOW-YYC and the usual morning/afternoon return on YYC-YOW for the summer season. They must think they can make more money flying to YEG, but to me, this is a present for WestJet and Flair.
Feb 4, 2023, 9:38 am
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FINALLY
just in time for Doors Open
timing kinda sucks compared to the old YEG-YOW flight
YOW dep. 16:25 arr. YEG 18:42
YEG dep. 19:45 arr. YOW 01:33
the old flight (flights?)
just in time for Doors Open
timing kinda sucks compared to the old YEG-YOW flight
YOW dep. 16:25 arr. YEG 18:42
YEG dep. 19:45 arr. YOW 01:33
the old flight (flights?)
