Cheap Latitude fares ex-Europe (2021 onwards)
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I've also been looking for the Ex Europe Latitude fares for the last 2 months and everything seems 5k range for LAt y ex Europe. Guess i;m doing Europe Lat Pass
#362




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On the $5,000+ fare issue. I see this now. What seems to have happened now is there are actually no fares published any more that are linked to Latitude. This is no good. The only fare that is mapped to Latitude is the full max IATA Y77 fare which is a hypothetical fare that exists on every single one-way leg for most routes and airlines. It is almost never purchased but it is available to be used and combined in itineraries as needed if nothing else is there that works. The Y fares published by AC are now considered comfort family. If we now find that we are in a place where there are actually no Lat fares published ex-europe- this is a problem. Lufthansa handles the fare setup ex-Europe - so it could be a mistake. To have no Lat fares published cannot be the intention. Even ex-canada now the B-Fares have a comfort and Lat fare family that are priced "reasonably" different and are fair. In fact the new B-Fares which are comfort are cheaper than the old BFFE fare which was latitude. So - my thought is this is a mistake and it needs to be fixed - as to have no Lat fares published cannot be the goal here.
#363

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Has anyone had any luck asking AC to find or publish B Latitude fares ex-Europe? it's so odd that they have reasonable-ish priced Canada-originating B Latitude fares to Europe (e.g. $2200 CAD one/way). Also odd is that US-Europe (via Canada) Latitude are also in the $4K CAD range one-way.
#364




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I see this is still not fixed - they have not published any Lat fares ex-Europe still. There are lots of channels many of us can use to write - I might use a couple of mine. You would think it is deliberate but it is probably not. There is no reason they can't just add a Lat fare at ~$400 over comfort. I think the issue is that the old "FF" fare family essentially was a full fare and Lat was B or Y all the time. Now FF means Comfort - and perhaps someone has not thought this through exactly or made the updates. It could also be a problem with the fare naming convention. For example, in LX (and likely LH) "FF" is basically the fully flexible fare and gets the designator "FF". They don't use comfort - however - AC and LX are sharing fares and FF is the fare indicator which perhaps is causing a conflict at the AC side. I would write this in if you have a contact. I have had fare issues over the years where I wrote it in when it looked like there was an unintentional issue on the fare rules.
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I see this is still not fixed - they have not published any Lat fares ex-Europe still. There are lots of channels many of us can use to write - I might use a couple of mine. You would think it is deliberate but it is probably not. There is no reason they can't just add a Lat fare at ~$400 over comfort. I think the issue is that the old "FF" fare family essentially was a full fare and Lat was B or Y all the time. Now FF means Comfort - and perhaps someone has not thought this through exactly or made the updates. It could also be a problem with the fare naming convention. For example, in LX (and likely LH) "FF" is basically the fully flexible fare and gets the designator "FF". They don't use comfort - however - AC and LX are sharing fares and FF is the fare indicator which perhaps is causing a conflict at the AC side. I would write this in if you have a contact. I have had fare issues over the years where I wrote it in when it looked like there was an unintentional issue on the fare rules.
Actually, I suspect this is deliberate.
From their standpoint, now that comfort fares are fully flexible, there is no longer a need for latitude. Add to that they don't particularly want people from this side of the Atlantic to use companion passes and upgrade at time of reservation.
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Actually, I suspect this is deliberate.
From their standpoint, now that comfort fares are fully flexible, there is no longer a need for latitude. Add to that they don't particularly want people from this side of the Atlantic to use companion passes and upgrade at time of reservation.
From their standpoint, now that comfort fares are fully flexible, there is no longer a need for latitude. Add to that they don't particularly want people from this side of the Atlantic to use companion passes and upgrade at time of reservation.
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#370

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agree. I'd said Canada - Europe above is cheapish. I'm well aware Europe-Canada is literally insane.
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I just wanted to reiterate the comment that the fare that they are calling Latitude is not really an AC fare using their branded structure - it is a standard IATA fare called YFF77 - which is the most expensive price essentially you can sell a fare at and is used by many airlines. There is a long list of things you can complain about with fares and this is one for sure. They basically are not offering Lat fares out of Europe. However - here's another one - they are basically not offering J-Class fares out of Canada that are changeable or refundable for free while ex-Europe it is somewhat easy to do. So - now I have my B-Fares out of Canada and my J-fares out of Europe with some combination of overlapping tickets needing a spaghetti chart to remind me which tickets are active at any time.
Edit - Looking at the fare setup - you are best to book PY Flexible I suppose - and some of the O Fares are super flexible but I do agree - they are quite a bit more expensive than the Lat fares ex Canada . But they are cheaper than the YWW77 fare types.
Edit - Looking at the fare setup - you are best to book PY Flexible I suppose - and some of the O Fares are super flexible but I do agree - they are quite a bit more expensive than the Lat fares ex Canada . But they are cheaper than the YWW77 fare types.

