Air Canada Clean Care+ program

Old May 6, 2020, 9:15 am
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But they are not in the top 20
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...anliness-2019/

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Old May 9, 2020, 6:41 am
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I trust this Clean Care+ is on only during the pandemic and we can be assured we go back to the cleanliness standard before the pandemic?
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Old May 10, 2020, 8:56 pm
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It seems the measures they're adopting (disclaimer: I'm not an epidemiologist) seem designed for reassuring their staff and customers rather than any meaningful reduction in risk of viral transmission. Mandatory mask wearing is one thing (ridiculous screening questions are another), but the newly-announced temperature checks by my understanding do little if anything to filter out contagious travellers.
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Old May 11, 2020, 10:45 am
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This is the first one of these I've received:




This is a Comfort class booking for the ill-fated YHZ Do. Obviously, I will be cancelling, but it's interesting to see this approach.
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Old May 11, 2020, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1
This is a Comfort class booking for the ill-fated YHZ Do. Obviously, I will be cancelling, but it's interesting to see this approach.
The original date or the revised one? I'm still holding out some hope for the October date, although I'm on an Aeroplan ticket than can be cancelled for free.
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Old May 11, 2020, 11:19 am
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I like that they went straight to "Clean Care PLUS". Was there a brief period when they offered Clean Care, and then decided to enhance it?

This all reminds me of one evening when we were coming up with bad restaurant slogans, and my son suggested "Now Poop-free!"
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Old May 11, 2020, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
The original date or the revised one? I'm still holding out some hope for the October date, although I'm on an Aeroplan ticket than can be cancelled for free.
This was for the original dates, so these flights are in June.
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Old May 11, 2020, 2:19 pm
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My question to this story, what happens if your temperature is to high at the connection city?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/air...erns-1.5562939

Air Canada temperature checks raise privacy concerns, experts say

'Temperature taking is not effective at all'

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Old May 11, 2020, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
My question to this story, what happens if your temperature is to high at the connection city?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/air...erns-1.5562939

Air Canada temperature checks raise privacy concerns, experts say

'Temperature taking is not effective at all'

So what if I just ran the entire length of YYZ to catch my connection?

Or just spent the last two hours roasting in the Priority Pass lounge there before my onward flight?

This temperature taking thing is total performance theatre designed to make some pax feel better about sitting next to others. IMHO, of course.
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Old May 11, 2020, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
My question to this story, what happens if your temperature is to high at the connection city?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/air...erns-1.5562939
Air Canada temperature checks raise privacy concerns, experts say 'Temperature taking is not effective at all'
There are some choice quotes in that article, firstly from the privacy experts:
"If the real reason why they're testing temperatures is to give some false sense of comfort to passengers, well, that's simply not going to pass muster if the privacy commissioner ever investigates."
But the best is saved for last by Leslie Dias UNIFOR union rep who really put her foot in it:

"I'm not sure why Canadians' privacy is more important than the privacy of passengers in Europe, Asia and so on," said Dias.
So let's give up our privacy because everybody else is? Wow, words can't begin to describe how myopic and tone deaf this statement is.
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Old May 11, 2020, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by majik
There are some choice quotes in that article, firstly from the privacy experts:


But the best is saved for last by Leslie Dias UNIFOR union rep who really put her foot in it:



So let's give up our privacy because everybody else is? Wow, words can't begin to describe how myopic and tone deaf this statement is.
Temperature checks aren't perfect as there are asymptomatic carriers. But it does eliminate the highest risk i.e. people who are already displaying symptoms. Would you sit next to someone coughing like crazy in this environment ? I wouldn't want to sit next to someone with a fever either. Thermal scanners are quite common in airports, and these are extraordinary times.
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Old May 11, 2020, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by karachi
Temperature checks aren't perfect as there are asymptomatic carriers. But it does eliminate the highest risk i.e. people who are already displaying symptoms. Would you sit next to someone coughing like crazy in this environment ? I wouldn't want to sit next to someone with a fever either. Thermal scanners are quite common in airports, and these are extraordinary times.
If the only people that will be flagged are those with clear symptoms then you don't need a temperature check. Large area thermal scanners that you see in the likes of HKG are managed by the airport, health or border authorities, not by the airlines, that is a huge difference. If somebody is coughing like crazy on an aircraft it could be for any number of reasons and a temperature check isn't going to help.
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Old May 11, 2020, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by majik
But the best is saved for last by Leslie Dias UNIFOR union rep who really put her foot in it:

Wow, words can't begin to describe how myopic and tone deaf this statement is.
It seems to me that the expectation of a union rep who isnt myopic and tone deaf is a bit optimistic.
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Old May 12, 2020, 12:27 am
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Originally Posted by karachi
Temperature checks aren't perfect as there are asymptomatic carriers. But it does eliminate the highest risk i.e. people who are already displaying symptoms. Would you sit next to someone coughing like crazy in this environment ? I wouldn't want to sit next to someone with a fever either. Thermal scanners are quite common in airports, and these are extraordinary times.
But not if someone has taken a bunch of cold/flu medication just to game the system and get on the plane as was reported from some of the repatriation flights.
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Old May 12, 2020, 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by biglinguist
I like that they went straight to "Clean Care PLUS". Was there a brief period when they offered Clean Care, and then decided to enhance it?

This all reminds me of one evening when we were coming up with bad restaurant slogans, and my son suggested "Now Poop-free!"
Seeing some AC marketing whiz simply added a + to a brand of toilet paper, your son is not far off the mark.
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