Air Canada OTP Getting Worse?
Feb 10, 2019, 3:14 pm
#46
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You are absolutely correct. I pulled that from an annual ranking, which is based on the previous year's full-year performance because it seemed a fairer representation.
In January, AC's mainline ranking was down to 54. Hence the thread title ... I wonder how much longer till it's under 50?
In January, AC's mainline ranking was down to 54. Hence the thread title ... I wonder how much longer till it's under 50?
Feb 10, 2019, 3:25 pm
#47
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Passing time by watching flights at planefinder.net and what I'm seeing tonight is disappointing, to say the least. Nearly every time I click on a flight operated by AC, rouge or AC express, it shows the flight as running late. There are a handful of exceptions, to be sure, but the vast majority of the AC flights appear to be running behind schedule.
Not so for flights operated by other carriers. They're not all on time, naturally. But most of them are.
We all know AC has an abysmal OTP. But is it possible that it could be getting even worse? After 20 minutes of clicking on little airplanes here, it definitely seems that right now, AC flights running late are the rule and those running on time are very much the exception.
Not so for flights operated by other carriers. They're not all on time, naturally. But most of them are.
We all know AC has an abysmal OTP. But is it possible that it could be getting even worse? After 20 minutes of clicking on little airplanes here, it definitely seems that right now, AC flights running late are the rule and those running on time are very much the exception.
Feb 10, 2019, 5:38 pm
#49
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Came in on AC18 today. Hit the ground early...Waited for an hour for our gate to clear due to the luggage problems in Vancouver. So my Vancouver lunch plans were late.
I was supposed to fly out later on AC8075. Cancelled.
I was meeting a friend on 8075 as well, he's arriving an AC247, also delayed. We'll see how it turns out.
I was supposed to fly out later on AC8075. Cancelled.
I was meeting a friend on 8075 as well, he's arriving an AC247, also delayed. We'll see how it turns out.
Feb 10, 2019, 6:12 pm
#51
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Yea. There was no snow when we landed on AC18.
The concierge now said "it's one of those days."
I'm heading back to YVR shortly. Anyone able to guest my friend into the lounge?
The concierge now said "it's one of those days."
I'm heading back to YVR shortly. Anyone able to guest my friend into the lounge?
Feb 10, 2019, 7:27 pm
#52
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Feb 11, 2019, 4:41 pm
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Just left harbour air, our Harbour Air flights were cancelled as well.... Now in a cab trying to get to the last ferry. All ferries after 5PM also cancelled.
Feb 11, 2019, 4:43 pm
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Feb 11, 2019, 4:54 pm
#58
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I heard about all Tsawassen-->Swartz Bay/Duke Point sailings being canceled "due to snow". I wonder if that's because staff can't get in? Horseshoe Bay to Nanaimo boats are still sailing as per schedule.
Bon voyage (Air Canada).
Feb 11, 2019, 7:05 pm
#59
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Why not fly faster to make up for delayed departure?
Please can someone with more knowledge of how things actually work explain to me. I was on a very delayed SFO-YVR flight a few years ago, and the pilot announced that he'd asked for and then been given a direct flight route, and he'd fly faster, and we made up a surprising amount of time, like 50% of the usual flight time. So that got me thinking, rather than have the knock on effects (and costs) of a delay, why cannot AC just fly their plane a few % faster? Is it because the flight plan cannot be changed at the last minute, or do the fuel costs outweigh the bad publicity from having the unreliable reputation they are getting?
Just last week I switched carriers because I saw that the flight I was about to book is "typically 30 min+ delayed", and I would therefore run a greater risk of being late.
Please can someone with more knowledge of how things actually work explain to me. I was on a very delayed SFO-YVR flight a few years ago, and the pilot announced that he'd asked for and then been given a direct flight route, and he'd fly faster, and we made up a surprising amount of time, like 50% of the usual flight time. So that got me thinking, rather than have the knock on effects (and costs) of a delay, why cannot AC just fly their plane a few % faster? Is it because the flight plan cannot be changed at the last minute, or do the fuel costs outweigh the bad publicity from having the unreliable reputation they are getting?
Just last week I switched carriers because I saw that the flight I was about to book is "typically 30 min+ delayed", and I would therefore run a greater risk of being late.
Feb 11, 2019, 7:40 pm
#60
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I don't know if planes are the same as ships but the theoretical is that fuel consumption increases as the cube of speed.
That is, double your speed - use 8x as much fuel.
On a yacht I crew on we burn less than 4 gallons per hour at 6 knots. At 9 knots we pin the fuel flow guage at >20 gallons per hour. So it sems to work in practice as well as theory.
That is, double your speed - use 8x as much fuel.
On a yacht I crew on we burn less than 4 gallons per hour at 6 knots. At 9 knots we pin the fuel flow guage at >20 gallons per hour. So it sems to work in practice as well as theory.