Overhead bin / closet in J?
Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 pm
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FWIW I don’t often see bags accommodated in the J closet, regardless of cabin but definitely less so for Y. Garment bags, sure, a bunch go in especially in the summer when the J cabin isn’t full of people wearing bulky winter coats, but most of the roll-aboard bags I see going into those closets belong to the FAs.
Dec 10, 2018, 4:38 pm
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Dec 10, 2018, 4:41 pm
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FWIW I don’t often see bags accommodated in the J closet, regardless of cabin but definitely less so for Y. Garment bags, sure, a bunch go in especially in the summer when the J cabin isn’t full of people wearing bulky winter coats, but most of the roll-aboard bags I see going into those closets belong to the FAs.
Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 pm
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Dec 10, 2018, 4:57 pm
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Even then, too many times I've seen Y pax put bags in J, and then come up 7 times during flight to get stuff. Keep it in your cabin, or check it. If your bag's too big, check it.
Dec 10, 2018, 5:09 pm
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Ignoring late boarders? I don't think J space should be given away to Y until J boards. I boarded a CR9 yesterday when they made their final boarding call. That's not me relinquishing my ability to store a bag, it's exercise an advertised perk of boarding when I want.
Even then, too many times I've seen Y pax put bags in J, and then come up 7 times during flight to get stuff. Keep it in your cabin, or check it. If your bag's too big, check it.
Even then, too many times I've seen Y pax put bags in J, and then come up 7 times during flight to get stuff. Keep it in your cabin, or check it. If your bag's too big, check it.
My point is really that I believe if there is space maybe AC should make an exception for their top tier pax although it shouldn’t impact those who paid or upgraded there.
And you make a good point about access. There shouldn’t be any during the flight.
Dec 10, 2018, 5:21 pm
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I understand that for many, reading is hard, but the concept of being a decent human being and not jumping to conclusions shouldn't be.
The OP made a reasonable request, and having a visible plastic status tag should not influence the civility of the cabin crew member's reply or treatment of any passenger (he or she can easily ask the passenger of their status, or check their manifest for that and/or fare information). We only know one side of the tale, granted, but that hasn't stopped the online AC enforcement division from offering their unsolicited and largely predictable assessments.
Dec 10, 2018, 5:28 pm
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Decent human beings would’ve (1) removed the clearly-too-large bag from the clearly-too-small overhead bin and (2) politely asked a member of the cabin crew for assistance in finding an adequate home for the duration of the flight. Step (1) helps ensure that someone just trying to get you safely to your destination doesn’t throw his or her back out unwedging your oversized bag from the undersized bin, while (2) makes you a decent human being.
Dec 10, 2018, 5:29 pm
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Ignoring late boarders? I don't think J space should be given away to Y until J boards. I boarded a CR9 yesterday when they made their final boarding call. That's not me relinquishing my ability to store a bag, it's exercise an advertised perk of boarding when I want.
Even then, too many times I've seen Y pax put bags in J, and then come up 7 times during flight to get stuff. Keep it in your cabin, or check it. If your bag's too big, check it.
Even then, too many times I've seen Y pax put bags in J, and then come up 7 times during flight to get stuff. Keep it in your cabin, or check it. If your bag's too big, check it.
Then there are those who insist on retrieving something from their bag mid-flight (often when I am sleeping) and the overall experience is less-than-positive.
In a perfect world, J bins = J passengers only. If Y runs out of bin space, gate check. Or better enforcement on bag size and number of bags prior to boarding but my observation is that no one wants to be "that person" to insist on gate-checking; instead, they pass the problem downtime to the cabin crew. By the time it becomes an issue onboard, it is easier to fill up the J-bins rather than gate check. So I understand the "why"...just wish it wasn't the case.
Dec 10, 2018, 5:41 pm
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I interpreted "I left it there" as "in the closet", though the later description of the encounter makes that obviously not true. I certainly do not see how the language could be parsed as the bag being left in the bin that it did not fit in.
In any case, by the OPs own recounting, there was no rudeness. No joy, but only firm denial of a request.
We don't and never will have the FAs side of the story. But I would fill in the blanks as they are trying to get their job done, and some FOTSG doesn't understand physics and overhead bin doors. They don't have tags, and thus are just another PAX, not that having status grants one the ability to violate the laws of physics or flight safety rules. The "bags that don't fit can go under the seat or be gate checked for free" announcement has been played already twice. This nobody FOTSG can't physics, can't listen and is wasting my time. The closet? \/\/TF is this guy? The closet. "No". "Still no". "No, with a cherry on top"
In any case, by the OPs own recounting, there was no rudeness. No joy, but only firm denial of a request.
We don't and never will have the FAs side of the story. But I would fill in the blanks as they are trying to get their job done, and some FOTSG doesn't understand physics and overhead bin doors. They don't have tags, and thus are just another PAX, not that having status grants one the ability to violate the laws of physics or flight safety rules. The "bags that don't fit can go under the seat or be gate checked for free" announcement has been played already twice. This nobody FOTSG can't physics, can't listen and is wasting my time. The closet? \/\/TF is this guy? The closet. "No". "Still no". "No, with a cherry on top"
Dec 10, 2018, 6:03 pm
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When did making your problem someone else’s stop being rude? While we try to teach our children that they should clean up their own messes, it seems some of us forget that through adulthood. Or perhaps just on the way to 100,000 miles with an airline
Decent human beings would’ve (1) removed the clearly-too-large bag from the clearly-too-small overhead bin and (2) politely asked a member of the cabin crew for assistance in finding an adequate home for the duration of the flight. Step (1) helps ensure that someone just trying to get you safely to your destination doesn’t throw his or her back out unwedging your oversized bag from the undersized bin, while (2) makes you a decent human being.
Decent human beings would’ve (1) removed the clearly-too-large bag from the clearly-too-small overhead bin and (2) politely asked a member of the cabin crew for assistance in finding an adequate home for the duration of the flight. Step (1) helps ensure that someone just trying to get you safely to your destination doesn’t throw his or her back out unwedging your oversized bag from the undersized bin, while (2) makes you a decent human being.
Anyway, my point is that armed with the most limited information, many are quick to judge and pull the gallows lever.
Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 pm
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Thank you.
This thread literally describes someone saying, “this doesn’t fit here, deal with it.” That’s what it boils down to.
Let me tell you a story. I flew a bunch of DL segments earlier this year. Regardless of which route, which aircraft or which crew, the interactions were always the same: “Sir / ma’am, if I touch your bag, I’m forced to bring it forward and have it checked. If you want to find some bin space in nearby rows together, I’m happy to help, otherwise let me know and my colleagues will be happy to check your back to its final destination.” Translation: don’t make your problem my problem. Which, if we’re honest, is great advice we can both seemingly agree with.
My turn to agree with you. Present company included.
Let me tell you a story. I flew a bunch of DL segments earlier this year. Regardless of which route, which aircraft or which crew, the interactions were always the same: “Sir / ma’am, if I touch your bag, I’m forced to bring it forward and have it checked. If you want to find some bin space in nearby rows together, I’m happy to help, otherwise let me know and my colleagues will be happy to check your back to its final destination.” Translation: don’t make your problem my problem. Which, if we’re honest, is great advice we can both seemingly agree with.
My turn to agree with you. Present company included.
Dec 10, 2018, 6:25 pm
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Dec 10, 2018, 6:42 pm
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