Aug 21, 2018, 8:23 am
Last edit by: yyznomad
For those of you interested only in the revised $450-million deal and related discussion, it starts on post 418:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/1926409-update-aimia-accepts-air-canada-td-cibc-visa-revised-450-million-aeroplan-bid-28.html#post30109427
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/1926409-update-aimia-accepts-air-canada-td-cibc-visa-revised-450-million-aeroplan-bid-28.html#post30109427
Update: Aimia accepts Air Canada, TD, CIBC & Visa revised $450-million Aeroplan bid
Nov 26, 2018, 6:03 pm
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I think its very negative for status customers personally as the CC points collecting is here to stay, and CC points collectors with status will be able to derive disproportionately more 'reward' for their loyalty with AC than just pure AC premium customers. Thus doing nothing to fix the flaws of the existing AC/AP arrangement that true AC FF's have come to despise.
Nov 26, 2018, 7:40 pm
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You say no because you don't want AC Visa Infinite cardholders (aka bottom line feeders, riff raff, kettles..) to get access to free checked bags and want to keep that benefit limited to elite status flyers, or because you honestly don't think AC will match the WestJet credit card offer ?
Nov 26, 2018, 9:17 pm
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You say no because you don't want AC Visa Infinite cardholders (aka bottom line feeders, riff raff, kettles..) to get access to free checked bags and want to keep that benefit limited to elite status flyers, or because you honestly don't think AC will match the WestJet credit card offer ?
2. I probably buy tickets that provide for free luggage. I seldom check luggage.
3. I honestly don't think AC will match.
I think luggage pigs should pay for the extra fuel they spend. If only because it's good for the environment.
Plus, taking your whole wardrobe on a trip to Hawaii is pointless, stupid, serves no purpose and the wardrobe does not get used anyway. Only advantage is that the plane burns more fuel.
(OK, if you want to accuse me of prejudice against stupid people I'll plead guilty.
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Nov 26, 2018, 9:24 pm
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You're just making assumptions of who is a commoner vs who is nobility.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with churning credit cards to earn Aeroplan miles to fly. If there was, AC and the banks would make people collect toasters or something.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those who fly for work or MRs or to see family, and actually pay cash for their seats and earn miles, points and status doing so.
And some do both.
And Marie Antoinette is long gone and still there are those who are still harping about the non-existent 1%.
We fly. We pay for our flying. We earn Aeropesos and AQM and so on. Some of us actually enjoy flying. Others enjoy toasters.
Happy travels.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with churning credit cards to earn Aeroplan miles to fly. If there was, AC and the banks would make people collect toasters or something.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those who fly for work or MRs or to see family, and actually pay cash for their seats and earn miles, points and status doing so.
And some do both.
And Marie Antoinette is long gone and still there are those who are still harping about the non-existent 1%.
We fly. We pay for our flying. We earn Aeropesos and AQM and so on. Some of us actually enjoy flying. Others enjoy toasters.
Happy travels.
Nov 26, 2018, 10:05 pm
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Nov 26, 2018, 10:05 pm
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A few more peons with free checked bags would actually improve nearly everyone's life as zone 5 invariably has to gate check bags on >90% of the segments I've been on in the last year.
Nov 26, 2018, 10:52 pm
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Nov 26, 2018, 11:18 pm
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Random thoughts: did anyone even thought of those bottom feeders actually reading this forum? I only get my points from my credit cards and I do not appreciate the tone set. "This world would be a whole lot better if we just made an effort to be less horrible to one another." -- Ellen Page.
The flying toasters were designed by the father of one of my most successful mentees... thanks for the memories, I needed happy thoughts this week.
The flying toasters were designed by the father of one of my most successful mentees... thanks for the memories, I needed happy thoughts this week.
Nov 26, 2018, 11:30 pm
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Random thoughts: did anyone even thought of those bottom feeders actually reading this forum? I only get my points from my credit cards and I do not appreciate the tone set. "This world would be a whole lot better if we just made an effort to be less horrible to one another." -- Ellen Page.
The flying toasters were designed by the father of one of my most successful mentees... thanks for the memories, I needed happy thoughts this week.
The flying toasters were designed by the father of one of my most successful mentees... thanks for the memories, I needed happy thoughts this week.
You're just making assumptions of who is a commoner vs who is nobility.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with churning credit cards to earn Aeroplan miles to fly. If there was, AC and the banks would make people collect toasters or something.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those who fly for work or MRs or to see family, and actually pay cash for their seats and earn miles, points and status doing so.
And some do both.
And Marie Antoinette is long gone and still there are those who are still harping about the non-existent 1%.
We fly. We pay for our flying. We earn Aeropesos and AQM and so on. Some of us actually enjoy flying. Others enjoy toasters.
Happy travels.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with churning credit cards to earn Aeroplan miles to fly. If there was, AC and the banks would make people collect toasters or something.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those who fly for work or MRs or to see family, and actually pay cash for their seats and earn miles, points and status doing so.
And some do both.
And Marie Antoinette is long gone and still there are those who are still harping about the non-existent 1%.
We fly. We pay for our flying. We earn Aeropesos and AQM and so on. Some of us actually enjoy flying. Others enjoy toasters.
Happy travels.
Second.....
Everyone is a bottom feeder, it's just a matter of where and what
There are a lot of people on FT and RFD and so many other forums who get their miles from credit cards. There are also those who get their miles for paying for seats and flying. And then, there are those who do both.
The issue I think some have with Air Canada and their new bed partners - CIBC, TD and VISA, is that some of us perceive that those who churn cards or spend lots on non-flying to earn their Aeroplan miles are now seen to be more valuable customers within this new partnership. While American Airlines recently admitted that they didn't make money from actual flying but they made a ton from the partnerships with the banks and credit cards, I think AC still made money from flying but those with far better finance knowledge can provide that info.
While we all wish the world to be a happy place, it isn't. We have to make our own. If your enjoyment from flying is a result of the points you earn with cards, then who cares what anyone else thinks. I used to think that those who spend to fly were more valuable to AC, but apparently that may not be the case. Who knows.
Happy travels.
Nov 27, 2018, 8:17 am
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