Olympian not happy with economy seating
#106
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He was tired when he wrote a poorly written sarcastic comment as per his #sarcasm attached to the original at the time. The comment was taken out of context, and was quickly removed. There is no need for him to "JSTFU" because the only comment he made was to apologize when he deleted his comment. He hasn't said anything else since then.
If you consider he shouldn't have apologized, ok. However, his ability to say I made a mistake, sorry so quickly speaks to his character. He took down his comment when he realized it had grown legs, especially after his friends and teammates pointed it out.
His attitude is one of kindness and generosity. Aside from this unfortunate incident, Sebastien has had an unblemished record. Not too many 25 year old snow boarders let alone adult Canadians can match his personal history of community contribution, drug free history, and willingness to be nice to everyone who crosses his path. It was one isolated tweet. The rending of garments, the wailing and the finger pointing is an over reaction to a non event. He's a good kid who slipped up, but quickly corrected the error. Case closed.
If you consider he shouldn't have apologized, ok. However, his ability to say I made a mistake, sorry so quickly speaks to his character. He took down his comment when he realized it had grown legs, especially after his friends and teammates pointed it out.
His attitude is one of kindness and generosity. Aside from this unfortunate incident, Sebastien has had an unblemished record. Not too many 25 year old snow boarders let alone adult Canadians can match his personal history of community contribution, drug free history, and willingness to be nice to everyone who crosses his path. It was one isolated tweet. The rending of garments, the wailing and the finger pointing is an over reaction to a non event. He's a good kid who slipped up, but quickly corrected the error. Case closed.
#107
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If he doesn't like it he can pay to upgrade. He's an Olympic athlete, not a soldier who is returning from an active military conflict, or a veteran, or something that is also considered a "noble" profession. Yes, some of you may believe that Olympic athletes hold a noble profession or that Air Canada should have "stepped up" and upgraded all Olympic athletes because they are an official partner, but I suspect the eupgraders on this board would lose their collective cool if they were bumped.
#108
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To be fair, my perception of the two original tweets were quite different.
Toutant's seemed like a genuine complaint, full of self-righteousness and entitlement. The US Curling Team's tweet appeared like a good-natured, tongue-in-cheek, half-serious "can't hurt to ask" opportunity for increased social media exposure for the team. This probably explains why the public reaction to each was so different (and why Toutant has deleted his original tweet).
Toutant's seemed like a genuine complaint, full of self-righteousness and entitlement. The US Curling Team's tweet appeared like a good-natured, tongue-in-cheek, half-serious "can't hurt to ask" opportunity for increased social media exposure for the team. This probably explains why the public reaction to each was so different (and why Toutant has deleted his original tweet).
I appreciate all the efforts and sacrifices of our Olympians and have generously supported them through Gold Medal Plates – A Celebration of Canadian Excellence. I'm glad to see Toutant has apologized for the Tweet and hopefully he has learned something in the process about the slippery slope of social media and it's usage.
#109
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The dispositive issue here is whether any business class seats were available without bumping paid passengers back behind the curtain.
If there were not, the idea of bumping someone who paid for a premium seat - in order to give it to someone who did not - is wrong on about a million levels.
Until we know whether any of those seats up front had been given out to other upgrades, we are simply arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
If there were not, the idea of bumping someone who paid for a premium seat - in order to give it to someone who did not - is wrong on about a million levels.
Until we know whether any of those seats up front had been given out to other upgrades, we are simply arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
#110
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Well.........this guy's individual brand is done I'd say. Sebastien Toutant is toast.
Apologies don't fix things, they are just for letting the individual manipulate those who they still think they can get support from. The concept of tweet whatever you want, then delete it and apologize is a scam and must be recognized for what it is. Apologies are a hollow and meaningless gesture proffered only once caught.
He meant what he said and I support his right to make a total aXX of himself. Perhaps the guys agent can find him work representing snowflakes who melted once out from under the shade of their parents helicopters.
Apologies don't fix things, they are just for letting the individual manipulate those who they still think they can get support from. The concept of tweet whatever you want, then delete it and apologize is a scam and must be recognized for what it is. Apologies are a hollow and meaningless gesture proffered only once caught.
He meant what he said and I support his right to make a total aXX of himself. Perhaps the guys agent can find him work representing snowflakes who melted once out from under the shade of their parents helicopters.
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#111
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Well.........this guy's individual brand is done I'd say.
Apologies don't fix things, they are just for letting the individual manipulate those they still think they can get support from.
He meant what he said and I support his right to make a total aXX of himself. Perhaps the guys agent can find him work representing snowflakes who melted once out from under the shade of their parents helicopters.
Apologies don't fix things, they are just for letting the individual manipulate those they still think they can get support from.
He meant what he said and I support his right to make a total aXX of himself. Perhaps the guys agent can find him work representing snowflakes who melted once out from under the shade of their parents helicopters.
#113
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Complaining about Air Canada, however flawed, is almost as much a national sport as hokey (or even Lacrosse).
But Olympic athletes being whiny prima donas is hardly new, and hardly is a limit to their "brand". I remind you of:
But Olympic athletes being whiny prima donas is hardly new, and hardly is a limit to their "brand". I remind you of:
#114
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Air Canada should have sent those two and their families a private jet to take them home with red carpet event. Or our prime minister Justin can send our jet normally reserve for the royalty.
#115
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There are no two people that exemplify team spirit more than "those two". I can say with a high level of certainty, that they would have politely declined a private jet in favour of travelling with their teammates. Really? That is why they are collectively called TEAM Canada.
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#116
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I don't get it, nor can I find an easy way to access DM archives from the date listed within the jpg name.
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Googling McKayla Maroney turns up more recent news, but she made that face on the podium when winning "only" silver or bronze in an Olympics gymnastics event, I guess now 6 years ago.
#119
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Less demand for paraolympics than olympics, same amount of flights. J seats probably didn't sell as much so wasn't a problem selling them to Canadian Paraolympics Governing Board.
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