Introducing Air Canada Basic Economy
#46
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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The fun part is this:
OMG >>>>>>>BUY ME THESE TICKETS! I'VE GOT A SINGLE PIN AUDIO JACK!!!! FOR MY HEADSET!!!!!!
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I can only imagine the meeting at AC, and the thousand hours they put in to identify this as a selling feature. Really. It should go down in the annals of marketing brilliance.
- Complimentary carry-on baggage
- A personal 22.6 cm (8.9”) touch-screen TV
- Hundreds of hours of top-rated entertainment
- In-seat power for your laptop and a single-pin audio jack for your headset
OMG >>>>>>>BUY ME THESE TICKETS! I'VE GOT A SINGLE PIN AUDIO JACK!!!! FOR MY HEADSET!!!!!!
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I can only imagine the meeting at AC, and the thousand hours they put in to identify this as a selling feature. Really. It should go down in the annals of marketing brilliance.
So ... no BE on Rouge?
AC have top rated entertainment? On which routes? And I guess having in seat power isn’t the same as it working while complimentary hand baggage doesn’t mean it’ll fly with you in the cabin (or even on the same flight).
#47
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 57
Up until branded fares were introduced, I understood certain perks (AQM, change fees, e-upgrade opportunities) to be tightly linked to the fare class. Now that those perks are much more fluid and my W (Flex) will not equal the next passengers W (Tango), why can't we just ditch most of the branded fare categories and simply increase the number of a la carte add-ons or deductions for every potential perk. When booking a flight, a passenger starts with a base price that either increases as perks are selected or decreases as a passenger elects to forego the ability to change the ticket, earn AQM, etc. If Air Canada really does not want some infrequent flyer to say, pay for a refundable ticket but receive a discount for foregoing AQM, then price those add-ons accordingly. This approach does not do anything for the people who will book basic economy, they should be paying a price they are willing to throw away--e.g. low double digit $$ often offered by Ryanair or EasyJet for advances sales. But why try and squeeze me into four other branded types of fares (tango, flex, flex-lat?, latitude?) Air Canada, when I can tell you what perks I want at time of booking and you will still try and sell me most of the other perks check-in (bag fees, seat selection, LMU)?
#48
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: PHX, SEA
Programs: Avis President's Club, Global Entry, Hilton/Marriott Gold. No more DL/AA status.
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I'm not a BE fan or apologist, but having witnessed its deployment in the USA last year, AC following Delta's hand baggage approach ("complimentary" hand baggage but most likely no overhead space) is still preferable to AA & UA. Those airlines charge you a checked bag fee, and if you get to the gate, AA charges a penalty too!
#49
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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So what happens if I buy BE, board late and my carry on doesn’t fit? AC will check it, for free it appears but what if there’s a laptop or other things not allowed in checked baggage in there?
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
#50
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 57
Why has no airline adopted purchased and assigned overhead bin space akin to a parking stall assigned to a particular apartment? Unlike the storage below the seat in front of the passenger, the bin space need not be exactly where the passenger is. Or has a budget airline done that already?
#52
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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#53
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Why has no airline adopted purchased and assigned overhead bin space akin to a parking stall assigned to a particular apartment? Unlike the storage below the seat in front of the passenger, the bin space need not be exactly where the passenger is. Or has a budget airline done that already?
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#57
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver
Programs: Aeroplan, Mileage Plus, WestJet Gold, AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,026
So what happens if I buy BE, board late and my carry on doesn’t fit? AC will check it, for free it appears but what if there’s a laptop or other things not allowed in checked baggage in there?
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
#58
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I was also wondering when these fares would launch, but more curious of how this newly designed page would again be newly designed to make room for NoGo Tango.
#59
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Really? In a public washroom I have never encountered this. I’ve seen washrooms without any (India/China) but I don’t recall seeing it for sale...
Last edited by jc94; Feb 21, 2018 at 6:40 am
#60
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Another hit at Aeroplan since it will mean fewer miles purchased as low fare travelers opt for this fare. Wonder how the Altitude newsletter will spin it as the likelihood is no elite benefits when flying in this fare, including free checked bag(s) and possibly MLL access! Would appear AC wants to further cull the heard for their its program in 2020 so they can figure out how to prime the pump for elites who will be losing the value of their hundreds of thousands of AE miles yet to be redeemed, and seeing accounts in the new program start at zero?
Agree this fare is likely to just appear on routes where the new LCCs fly. AA has Basic Econmy but I’ve yet to come across it when booking routes I fly within the US. Seems to appear on routes where Southwest or other LCCs compete but not on mainline business routes.
Agree this fare is likely to just appear on routes where the new LCCs fly. AA has Basic Econmy but I’ve yet to come across it when booking routes I fly within the US. Seems to appear on routes where Southwest or other LCCs compete but not on mainline business routes.