2017 skytrax places AC back at #1 in N.A.
Jul 17, 2018, 9:56 am
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Interesting because AC is nowhere to be seen in the top 20 in neither business or economy
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/worlds-best-business-class-airlines-2018/
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/worlds-best-business-class-airlines-2018/
Jul 17, 2018, 10:14 am
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Baffling, simply baffling.
I would love being to be rated #1 where I work if my deliverables were less than 75% on time. Okay, maybe not.
I would love being to be rated #1 where I work if my deliverables were less than 75% on time. Okay, maybe not.
Jul 17, 2018, 10:35 am
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Interesting because AC is nowhere to be seen in the top 20 in neither business or economy
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...airlines-2018/
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...airlines-2018/
Jul 17, 2018, 12:14 pm
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I'd say the J experience on AC planes with signature service (widebody planes I think) is actually pretty good for a North American airline.
However the J experience on non-signature service planes and the PY/Y experience on all planes are definitely not award-winning level.
However the J experience on non-signature service planes and the PY/Y experience on all planes are definitely not award-winning level.
Jul 17, 2018, 12:28 pm
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If AC keeps competing with the worst airlines in the world, I am sure AC will win every time.
Realities are, on TATL market, AC is nothing without JV and government blocking ME3 plus TK. On TPAC market, AC fails competing with CA, MU, CZ on price, and fails competing with pretty much everyone else on quality. On NA market, there is simply no competition, until US big 3 is picking up recently.
Realities are, on TATL market, AC is nothing without JV and government blocking ME3 plus TK. On TPAC market, AC fails competing with CA, MU, CZ on price, and fails competing with pretty much everyone else on quality. On NA market, there is simply no competition, until US big 3 is picking up recently.
Jul 17, 2018, 2:12 pm
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(Aside: It's more like ME2 now...
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Jul 17, 2018, 2:28 pm
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You and I must have different definitions of common TATL routes. This makes no sense for Europe. Flying all the way to IST/DXB/AUH/DOH, with a layover, an backtracking several hours to Europe? Hell. No. If anything, the competation is from low cost carriers. If we're talking TATL J, I'd take AC J over TK J (bad hard product, extremely hot cabins) or Emirates/Etihad any day.
(Aside: It's more like ME2 now...)
(Aside: It's more like ME2 now...
)As for European routes, the JV with UA and LH really helped AC.
Jul 17, 2018, 2:35 pm
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.Undoubtedly, but I also think even without the JV, AC's J is competative with any European carrier's J/C product (having flown almost all of them myself now, to compare).
Jul 17, 2018, 6:00 pm
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Left out of the press release was these two additional awards (Bolding mine):
Best Business Class in North America
Best Airline Cabin Cleanliness in North America
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/a-z-airline-awards-winners-2018/
Best Business Class in North America
Best Airline Cabin Cleanliness in North America
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/a-z-airline-awards-winners-2018/
Jul 18, 2018, 6:50 am
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Interesting because AC is nowhere to be seen in the top 20 in neither business or economy
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...airlines-2018/
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...airlines-2018/
Jul 18, 2018, 6:57 am
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Left out of the press release was these two additional awards (Bolding mine):
Best Business Class in North America
Best Airline Cabin Cleanliness in North America
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/a-z-airline-awards-winners-2018/
Best Business Class in North America
Best Airline Cabin Cleanliness in North America
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/a-z-airline-awards-winners-2018/
AC has "Best Business Class in NA"....AA has "Best First Class in NA" and DL has "Best Business Class Seat in NA"...
Jul 18, 2018, 7:09 am
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Jul 18, 2018, 11:33 am
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So Skytricks is handing out kindergarten style trophies?
Can I get one for riding the Highest H award? And don't worry, you guys can get riding the Highest H in NA, riding the Highest H in Canada, etc award.
Can I get one for riding the Highest H award? And don't worry, you guys can get riding the Highest H in NA, riding the Highest H in Canada, etc award.
Jul 18, 2018, 2:29 pm
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Looks like Rouge remains "not rated".
Prior to last year's "awards" it said rating soon.
I wonder how much AC is paying SkyTrax to keep hiding Rouge's rating (1* or 2* at best?) based how on their own site Rouge continues to be the worst rated airline in the world. (3/10, can't give 0)
Prior to last year's "awards" it said rating soon.
I wonder how much AC is paying SkyTrax to keep hiding Rouge's rating (1* or 2* at best?) based how on their own site Rouge continues to be the worst rated airline in the world. (3/10, can't give 0)