Air Canada bumps man off flight, separating him from girlfriend
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I can just see him sulking in the corner and sending her lots to text messages that he missed and love her, taking selfies, video messages.
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When did I say that? Why is it that people on this board so often see only black and white? I started my post by saying "[l]ooks like another AC screw-up".
But it's entirely possible for AC to have screwed up (and owe compensation) AND the story about the emotional impact to be overwrought at the same time.
But it's entirely possible for AC to have screwed up (and owe compensation) AND the story about the emotional impact to be overwrought at the same time.
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"It's not just about the compensation. It's also about the feelings, emotional things," said Qingyang Liu.
"It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed,"
"This is definitely the worst experience I've had."
He seems like the kid in school who would call his teacher, "mommy", and got beaten up, and then his older brothers would also get beaten up, by the younger kids, when he would get his older brothers to help.
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I agree with most of the posters here, even when they have trouble agreeing with each other.
(1) AC messed up. They rerouted him to another city with an unexpected overnight. AC should have paid for a hotel.
(2) If some customers with Chinese names have trouble entering their name correctly (as simpleflyer suggested), then AC needs to fix the system to make it clearer and easier. If the system is too euro-centric then something is wrong.
(3) The part about being separated from his girlfriend is a red herring. The emotional turmoil is irrelevant unless one of them was acting as a caregiver for the other. If it was so important that they stay together then she should have waited for him instead of boarding the airplane.
(1) AC messed up. They rerouted him to another city with an unexpected overnight. AC should have paid for a hotel.
(2) If some customers with Chinese names have trouble entering their name correctly (as simpleflyer suggested), then AC needs to fix the system to make it clearer and easier. If the system is too euro-centric then something is wrong.
(3) The part about being separated from his girlfriend is a red herring. The emotional turmoil is irrelevant unless one of them was acting as a caregiver for the other. If it was so important that they stay together then she should have waited for him instead of boarding the airplane.
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Liu said he's flown all over the world and has never had an experience like he did this weekend. "This is definitely the worst experience I've had."
Seems like he is not handling it well. Millions of passengers per day get to their destinations without issue, yet this is the story that makes then news.
And, I wish my lucky stars that something like that would be "the worst experience I've had".
Seems like he is not handling it well. Millions of passengers per day get to their destinations without issue, yet this is the story that makes then news.
And, I wish my lucky stars that something like that would be "the worst experience I've had".
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Correction. It made The CBC News.
It is not on Global. It is not on CTV, who seems to think the bigger story is the family kicked off JetBlue because of a cake is more newsy-news.
Haven't checked to see if it's made the BBC, Bloomberg, WSJ, NYT and such.
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Since Liu (刘) has travelled the world I am sure he knows how to enter his name for ticket purchase. If there was an error on the ticket why was it not caught at check-in since he has to provide his proof of identity at that stage? If there was an error, the gate agent corrected it but not until after his seat had been given to someone else, perhaps a higher paying passenger. "He said an Air Canada employee was able to fix the issue, but then told him the plane was full and he'd been bumped off the flight to Saskatoon." I didn't know gate agents could "fix" identity issues.
Even AC agrees that this is unusual. AC suggests you arrive 90 minutes before departure for an intra Canada flight. Check-in closes 45 minutes before departure. He checked in 60 minutes before departure.
He was IDB'd, his seat should have been held until the issue was corrected since it was a correctable issue.
Even AC agrees that this is unusual. AC suggests you arrive 90 minutes before departure for an intra Canada flight. Check-in closes 45 minutes before departure. He checked in 60 minutes before departure.
He was IDB'd, his seat should have been held until the issue was corrected since it was a correctable issue.
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I agree with most of the posters here, even when they have trouble agreeing with each other.
(1) AC messed up. They rerouted him to another city with an unexpected overnight. AC should have paid for a hotel.
(2) If some customers with Chinese names have trouble entering their name correctly (as simpleflyer suggested), then AC needs to fix the system to make it clearer and easier. If the system is too euro-centric then something is wrong.
(3) The part about being separated from his girlfriend is a red herring. The emotional turmoil is irrelevant unless one of them was acting as a caregiver for the other. If it was so important that they stay together then she should have waited for him instead of boarding the airplane.
(1) AC messed up. They rerouted him to another city with an unexpected overnight. AC should have paid for a hotel.
(2) If some customers with Chinese names have trouble entering their name correctly (as simpleflyer suggested), then AC needs to fix the system to make it clearer and easier. If the system is too euro-centric then something is wrong.
(3) The part about being separated from his girlfriend is a red herring. The emotional turmoil is irrelevant unless one of them was acting as a caregiver for the other. If it was so important that they stay together then she should have waited for him instead of boarding the airplane.
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Guy gets bumped off a flight, sent to a different city and not provided a hotel room, but it's not okay for him to point out how this very oddly managed situation caused some emotional distress?
Won't even bother with the apparent belief that only going to Somalia warrants distress. That's just intellectual laziness, but at least it's a stab at intellect.
Blathering about teachers and mommies and high school - you'd be wise not to start projecting your own life experiences on others. Or, for that matter, turning this forum into a (st)ick measuring contest.
Yes, we're all impressed by the ability of some people here to put up with whatever AC throws at the without feeling the need to hold AC to account. Can't speak for AC, but I wish my clients were the same ilk of pushovers, congratulating themselves on their stoicism if I screwed up.
Yes, we're all impressed by the ability of some people here to put up with whatever AC throws at the without feeling the need to hold AC to account. Can't speak for AC, but I wish my clients were the same ilk of pushovers, congratulating themselves on their stoicism if I screwed up.
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I don't think it's a great secret that I generally question the "need" to bump pax at all. But if it does happen, I do think the airline should step up and pay for whatever comes after. In this case, the pax was owed compensation and I think, a hotel room. If AC had bumped the pax but taken care of him, this would not have been a story.