May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
Last edit by: yyznomad
Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
//
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
//
Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020
Aug 11, 2017, 10:11 am
#796
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
"Solid Ground" but their share price is a quarter of what it was and they plan to lay off 10% of their staff to reduce their OpEx.
But I guess you play the hand you dealt.
But I guess you play the hand you dealt.
Aug 11, 2017, 11:29 am
#797
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
But obviously Aimia sees the need to preserve cash as they go through the next 3 years in reworking the program less AC.
Last edited by tcook052; Aug 11, 2017 at 11:34 am Reason: fix quote
Aug 11, 2017, 12:48 pm
#799
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK *G
Posts: 3,099
The main question is, IMO, what their customer base will be. I expect them to lose pretty much everyone who actually flying AC, and a bunch of high end CC customers, as they will directly deal with AC's new FF. If AP only gets its customers from retails, then they are just like Air Miles.
Aug 11, 2017, 6:25 pm
#800
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
The main question is, IMO, what their customer base will be. I expect them to lose pretty much everyone who actually flying AC, and a bunch of high end CC customers, as they will directly deal with AC's new FF. If AP only gets its customers from retails, then they are just like Air Miles.
Too many unknowns at this point but it's fun to speculate.
Aug 13, 2017, 10:30 am
#801
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & MM/*Wood Gold/HHonors Diamond/Marriott Silver/AirMiles Gold
Posts: 4,567
High end spenders typically spend with American Express - so I suspect the high end spender will either choose a card that is affiliated with AMEX and with the new Air Canada post 2020 program, or simply stay with Membership Rewards. Lots of unknowns though - because we don't know if there will be a conversion path from Membership Rewards to Air Canada's new program.
Too many unknowns at this point but it's fun to speculate.
Too many unknowns at this point but it's fun to speculate.
That is where I am currently parking my points, whenever I can.
Aug 13, 2017, 12:08 pm
#802
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 395
As am I - just changed my primary card from Aeroplan to MR with Amex. No real risk in the short term since we can still convert 1:1 if I need them, but gives me more options in 2020. Even if there is no MR to Altitude conversion.
Aug 13, 2017, 6:42 pm
#803
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 pm
#804
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,804
However it's 1:1 vs. 1.5:1 for Aeroplan Plat. Sitting on only around 170 k miles and planning to use the miles whenever it works at a reasonable value, I see no rush to switch. My wife can get E50 as my selection so she can use the miles.
Aug 14, 2017, 6:22 am
#805
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto ON and Dunedin FL
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 57
Aug 14, 2017, 6:34 am
#806
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
Okay, can you high-flying guys please explain what is "MR to Altitude conversion", and what you mean by "my wife can get E50 as my selection so she can use the miles"--is there a way to move miles that I don't know about? (One of my pet peeves with FF programs is spouses not being able to consolidate.)
Super elite members can give Elite 50K status to someone of their choice. In this case, these individuals are choosing to give their partner Elite 50K.
Aug 14, 2017, 8:00 am
#807
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto ON and Dunedin FL
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 57
Thanks for the Elite explanation. I know what MR means, I too am sitting on mine right now. But what is MR to Altitude conversion?
Aug 14, 2017, 8:14 am
#808
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Aeroplan is below. And here is the link
http://catalogue.membershiprewards.c...eroverview.mtw
.
Aug 14, 2017, 8:55 am
#809
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
Just to be clear, I believe the reference to MR > Altitude was with respect to an assumed or expected ability to transfer Amex MR to the "new AC Frequent Flyer program" come 2020, assuming it is linked to the existing AC Altitude status program. Right now it is MR > Aeroplan, which although it shares the same points pool with Altitude doesn't provide "real" status benefits with AC and Star Alliance.
Aug 14, 2017, 10:02 am
#810
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Just to be clear, I believe the reference to MR > Altitude was with respect to an assumed or expected ability to transfer Amex MR to the "new AC Frequent Flyer program" come 2020, assuming it is linked to the existing AC Altitude status program. Right now it is MR > Aeroplan, which although it shares the same points pool with Altitude doesn't provide "real" status benefits with AC and Star Alliance.
IMHO, and related to this, it's also a bit of a time waster for anyone to guess which financial partners the "new" program will choose, or which banks will really want the business.