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24left Sep 30, 2019 6:12 am


Originally Posted by vernonc (Post 31577449)
Just got notification that my bid was accepted TPE-YVR from lowest PE to J. Bid was $620 and lowest possible bid was $605. EF shows J4, O3, E0, N0

@vernonc
Congrats! and also interesting considering our chat the other day about fares, Bids, LMU's and such.
Safe travels

canadiancow Sep 30, 2019 9:58 am


Originally Posted by Clipper801 (Post 31576517)
LMU may not necessarily be offered for purchase even if J>0. In one case, flight was no more than 61% full in J but no LMU was offered for purchase at check-in.

It appears, based on a very small sample of flights reported here, AC from time to time prefers to save those unsold J seats for free eUpgrade or op-up instead of offering them for sale.

eUpgrades are not free.

Clipper801 Sep 30, 2019 8:06 pm

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canadiancow Sep 30, 2019 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper801 (Post 31581026)
How much did you pay for your eUpgrade credit?

$20,000

24left Sep 30, 2019 8:44 pm

Data point

For the YYC Do I was on an Aeroplan Economy ticket.

This time, I did not receive and email offer to Bid Up, but I did see one in the App.
It showed that the outbound AC 137 was not available for bidding.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c5c8797198.png


Yet, this was EF at T-24 check-in


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8bc35e2ddc.png


So, I happily used my eUp credits and paid the co-pay. :p

******

For AC 156, there was a Bid Up offer

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c3146510b6.png



Sometime in the middle of the night, after AC 156 opened for check-in, I looked at EF

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fc265b051b.png


Once again, I used my eUps and paid the co-pay.

Given the 2hr and 45 min delayed departure of 156, I was very happy to have the lie-flat - even if sleep time was only 2.5 hours, but I was happier to pay the co-pays. :D

Clipper801 Oct 1, 2019 9:16 pm


Originally Posted by 24left (Post 31581117)
Data point

For the YYC Do I was on an Aeroplan Economy ticket.

This time, I did not receive and email offer to Bid Up, but I did see one in the App.
It showed that the outbound AC 137 was not available for bidding.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c5c8797198.png


Yet, this was EF at T-24 check-in


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8bc35e2ddc.png


So, I happily used my eUp credits and paid the co-pay. :p

******

For AC 156, there was a Bid Up offer

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c3146510b6.png



Sometime in the middle of the night, after AC 156 opened for check-in, I looked at EF

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fc265b051b.png


Once again, I used my eUps and paid the co-pay.

Given the 2hr and 45 min delayed departure of 156, I was very happy to have the lie-flat - even if sleep time was only 2.5 hours, but I was happier to pay the co-pays. :D

It's interesting to note that despite the load (J9 R9), the flight was not opened for bid upgrade!

Clipper801 Oct 1, 2019 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 31581033)
$20,000

Very bad return on investment by AC.
AQD does not equal to net profit.

24left Oct 1, 2019 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper801 (Post 31584770)
It's interesting to note that despite the load (J9 R9), the flight was not opened for bid upgrade!

Baffling to me, but perhaps not to Plusgrade or AC revenue management algorithms. :D

And also interesting that our very delayed AC 156 went out with 10 empty J. I'm not sure how they figured someone would pay anywhere close to the $620 bid for a 3 hour red-eye flight, compared to......


Originally Posted by vernonc (Post 31577449)
Just got notification that my bid was accepted TPE-YVR from lowest PE to J. Bid was $620 and lowest possible bid was $605. EF shows J4, O3, E0, N0

Yes, yes, apples, oranges. :p

theOtherHolmes Oct 3, 2019 9:15 pm

I’m debating if I should bid to upgrade from PE (award ticket) to J on AC31 YYZ PEK on November 9.

Can someone check EF to see the current J load?

The minimum bid is $860, I do not wish to bid more than necessary— e.g. $865 or $870. Is this even worth trying?

Also, can I use AC eGift Card that comes with the CIBC Visa Infinite card to pay part of the upgrade fee?

Thanks!

24left Oct 3, 2019 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by theotherholmes (Post 31592087)
i’m debating if i should bid to upgrade from pe (award ticket) to j on ac31 yyz pek on november 9.

Can someone check ef to see the current j load?

......


It's J9 C9 D2 Z0 P0 R0 O7 E5 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G0 S9 T0 L0 A0 K0

Jack in the Box Oct 4, 2019 8:17 am


Originally Posted by Jack in the Box (Post 31576304)
AC39 YVR-KIX on October 5
Currently booked in Premium Economy Lowest, N Fare, for Two
Bid to J is $150-$500 pp

EF doesn't seem to show much available though: J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O0 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0

But the seat map looks like there are 6 seats still free.

Any chance on winning a bid for two with the info above?

I bid $330 pp and it was denied. No upgrade offered at check-in despite the seat map on EF still shows 3 seats in J available. Bummer.

theOtherHolmes Oct 4, 2019 9:40 am


Originally Posted by 24left (Post 31592151)
It's J9 C9 D2 Z0 P0 R0 O7 E5 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G0 S9 T0 L0 A0 K0

Thank you. I know J9 C9 means there are more than 9 seats available for purchase in BUSINESS. What do D2 Z0 P0 R0 really mean? And how would D/Z/P/R being low affect the bidding if at all?

Should I bid now or wait? Does it matter?

couldcarryless Oct 4, 2019 9:59 am

YYZ - YYC
No idea where to find current loads, looked at booking J to get seat map and all seats still available on A321
Fare booked: Standard
Min bid : 450
Bid offered : 460
T-47

vernonc Oct 4, 2019 10:18 am


Originally Posted by theOtherHolmes (Post 31593575)
Thank you. I know J9 C9 means there are more than 9 seats available for purchase in BUSINESS. What do D2 Z0 P0 R0 really mean? And how would D/Z/P/R being low affect the bidding if at all?

Should I bid now or wait? Does it matter?

D2, Z0, P0 are all business class but cheaper fares just like Y is full fare economy and T,A etc are cheap fares in economy. R is the upgrade bucket so what this means is that there are no seats for e-upgrades - this may change at T-24 or at the gate.
While there are plenty of seats available in J, I would suggest bid now.

canadiancow Oct 4, 2019 11:08 am


Originally Posted by couldcarryless (Post 31593635)
YYZ - YYC
No idea where to find current loads, looked at booking J to get seat map and all seats still available on A321
Fare booked: Standard
Min bid : 450
Bid offered : 460
T-47

If you give date and flight number, someone can look it up.

If it's AC 1593 on the 6th, it's J8 R7 Y26 and they're willing to overbook by 12 in Y.


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