[IN FLIGHT] Shaves on a Plane; the Hall of Shame for passengers behaving badly on AC
Sep 29, 2018, 10:06 pm
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The world has changed. Some people have allergies, some people just can't stand the smells, others just find the idea of overpowering scent and smells in a sealed tube at FL390 for 12, or 16 or 2 hours to be uncomfortable. There doesn't need to be a reason.
If many public buildings, private offices and others choose to have a scent-free policy, it is because it bothers enough people and is relatively easy to implement. Hotels have rooms that are scent free.
And to be clear, the planet is full of a monumental number of clueless and/or self-absorbed. They only care about themselves and it matters not to them if their choices have a negative impact on others. While this could be said about a whole range of topics, I am not the only one who would prefer aircraft cabins be free of people who choose to bathe in perfumes.
And I say this to that guy who was in 6D, upon arrival after 12+ hours, decided we all needed to get a whiff of his cologne.
Perhaps I should send a formal letter to Air Canada. I'll let the more rabid types file complaints....or call the CBC
Sep 30, 2018, 4:11 am
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Are you trying to imply that she subjects fellow passengers to overpowering scents? As urban dictionary says about the quote, "Overly insistent about something, to the point where the opposite is most likely true." I very much doubt that, though I haven't had the pleasure of meeting 24left in person. Most folks who get upset about scents are very careful not to use scented products.
I would be very upset if I were stuck sitting next to somebody who smelled like they had bathed in perfume, let alone applying it in flight. I can't imagine my reaction to someone using a bottle of nail polish in flight. That stuff reeks. Perfume is made to cover up bad hygiene. People should just wash.
I would be very upset if I were stuck sitting next to somebody who smelled like they had bathed in perfume, let alone applying it in flight. I can't imagine my reaction to someone using a bottle of nail polish in flight. That stuff reeks. Perfume is made to cover up bad hygiene. People should just wash.
Last edited by smallmj; Sep 30, 2018 at 6:29 am Reason: Changed to generalize last comment. Didn't mean to direct it at any specific person.
Sep 30, 2018, 6:31 am
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if you spend any amount of time near the equator, and especially where humidity runs near 100% all the time like here in Singapore this week, even showering twice a day won’t overcome outside conditions.
AC flies to plenty of places where your definition of hygiene is just plain quaint + I routinely do +20 hour journeys and where possible I might get a shower done in between, but I can afford business class to get to shower, and not everyone are in these circumstances.
PS… Check out history of perfume as people believed the bathing too much was not a good thing
AC flies to plenty of places where your definition of hygiene is just plain quaint + I routinely do +20 hour journeys and where possible I might get a shower done in between, but I can afford business class to get to shower, and not everyone are in these circumstances.
PS… Check out history of perfume as people believed the bathing too much was not a good thing
Sep 30, 2018, 6:53 am
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I think some may be missing the giveaways “ reek” “bathed in” etc. There are indeed passengers who dispense complementary (or even their own) aftershaves/ scents so liberally as to make their fellow passengers uncomfortable. Consideration for others is never a bad thing especially in close quarters. And that includes noise and bodily odors...
Sep 30, 2018, 7:10 am
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I was at a conference last week, and walking through the exhibit hall, I said to my colleague "someone nearby is staying at the Marriott". The basic scent program of some hotels is so consistent, and the scents from the free toiletries is so persistent, that all it takes is to shower and shampoo in the morning and I can smell you at 3:00 p.m. from ten paces. This isn't add-on "splash me so I smell pretty" product. It's body wash and shampoo. That said, I like the Marriott scent, and Hilton, and others. I am not sickened by scents (generally - am recovering from two years of anosmia when I would have given my hind leg to smell anything). But if I can smell you, someone that is sickened can smell you. Given that many people on an aircraft started their day away from home in a hotel, maybe the complaint is with the hotels. The hotel I just stayed at had pleasant toiletries with no staying power to the scent at all.
Sep 30, 2018, 7:26 am
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Are you trying to imply that she subjects fellow passengers to overpowering scents? As urban dictionary says about the quote, "Overly insistent about something, to the point where the opposite is most likely true." I very much doubt that, though I haven't had the pleasure of meeting 24left in person. Most folks who get upset about scents are very careful not to use scented products.
I would be very upset if I were stuck sitting next to somebody who smelled like they had bathed in perfume, let alone applying it in flight. I can't imagine my reaction to someone using a bottle of nail polish in flight. That stuff reeks. Perfume is made to cover up bad hygiene. People should just wash.
I would be very upset if I were stuck sitting next to somebody who smelled like they had bathed in perfume, let alone applying it in flight. I can't imagine my reaction to someone using a bottle of nail polish in flight. That stuff reeks. Perfume is made to cover up bad hygiene. People should just wash.
The car service I used told me that they have a growing list of customers who have requested scent-free cars and drivers. It seems those of us who requested this don't want drivers smelling of cigarettes or heavy colognes - perhaps related to your point about covering up bad hygiene.
Anyway, AC should be smart enough to realize that not all pax understand the concept of a delicate scent or application. I don't mind someone who smells nice when I am close-up and personal, but the entire cabin does not need to bathe in it.
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Last edited by 24left; Sep 30, 2018 at 7:51 am Reason: spelling
Sep 30, 2018, 7:41 am
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My sense of smell became dull after having worked a decade in processing plants that used H2S. But if I can smell your scent, it is too strong for the average population.
More and more places have scent-free policies now, people just need to progress with the times and stop living in the 80s.
More and more places have scent-free policies now, people just need to progress with the times and stop living in the 80s.
Sep 30, 2018, 9:16 am
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Sep 30, 2018, 10:10 am
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The problem is this: there is a finite amount of common sense in the world. As the population increases on an exponential scale the amount of common sense per person diminishes exponentially. Added to that is the phenomenon that it isn’t uniformly distributed.
Sep 30, 2018, 10:30 am
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While I hate having to smell this stuff, I've been reading this topic for the last 24 hours, and I can't come up with a reasonable argument.
"I don't like it" is not reasonable.
And that seems to be the main argument here.
"I don't like it" is not reasonable.
And that seems to be the main argument here.
Sep 30, 2018, 12:03 pm
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Are you trying to imply that she subjects fellow passengers to overpowering scents? As urban dictionary says about the quote, "Overly insistent about something, to the point where the opposite is most likely true." I very much doubt that, though I haven't had the pleasure of meeting 24left in person. Most folks who get upset about scents are very careful not to use scented products.
Sep 30, 2018, 12:12 pm
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Meanwhile, we seem to have a bit of broken telephone going on here.
Anyway, back OT....
We all know pax behaving badly, shaving on a plane, clipping toe nails on a plane, flying naked (waiting for one of those to show up on AC), and such are part of what goes on up there. I'm sure we can agree it could be annoying at best, offensive or cause a diversion at worst. Thankfully I breathe a sigh of relief knowing that I have not been responsible for any of this.