YYC Transborder Connections: Over a decade later and still a mess
#17
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
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Then I pitty you will have to go through with a long unorganized line to security (Getting to the priority entrance can be incredibly difficult; especially at peak); a complete lack of security staff, especially at peak; little to no offerings post security; probably the worst and most overcrowded MLL in the network...
I could go on; but don't want to completely ruin all the fun surprises that await @YYC
I could go on; but don't want to completely ruin all the fun surprises that await @YYC
The MLL is a minor issue but it's getting better, also the one time my YMM-YCC flight landed and parked way out in the sticks, that kinda sucked I don't mind walking, even if it's long range, but it seemed REALLY far and my connection time was a bit short so I was kinda stressing. First and only time I've ever parked out there.
For a 2 hour trip to YYC, honestly you'll be fine, you might be a bit held up getting back out, but it's nothing a seasoned pro can't deal with.
In the end it's not a good airport currently, it CAN be totally fine if you're there at the right time of day, but with the amount of PAX the place has grown to, coupled with the amount of weather delays and issues it suffers, the airport should be much bigger and hopefully the new terminal gets that done. I honestly don't know anything about the WS side, never flown them there, but the AC side is pretty damn crowded and there's seemingly lots of terminal that's not used.
#18
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
I went through there last summer to grab a flight to LHR I was surprised how overcrowded and antiquated the whole terminal is. Kind of like LGA but with less space at the gates and without the quirky advantages at LGA due to the old configuration like fast security lines.
The kicker is the YOW flight (one I usually take) is parked right next to it; to even get to the gate can be a challenge.
Then I pitty you will have to go through with a long unorganized line to security (Getting to the priority entrance can be incredibly difficult; especially at peak); a complete lack of security staff, especially at peak; little to no offerings post security; probably the worst and most overcrowded MLL in the network...
#20
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,648
You are my hero. I am doing that next time. Except I will say "no Engrish".
#21
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,648
The Nexus security line is empty.
The priority security line is empty.
The terminal is more spacious than the AC side (WS side has moving side-walks).
The Servisair lounge is cavernous and usually very empty.
The clientèle over there, however, are clearly lower social-economic status than on the AC side.
#22
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 771
The new terminal is long overdue.
Apart from the OP comments which I am sure are true, these are the other issues I have at YYC:
1) Terrible security line waits on the domestic and US side. (this prompted me to get NEXUS so we will see how that works out)
2) Awful waiting areas and restaurant choices on the US pre-cleared side.
3) Cramped AC domestic waiting areas, (at peak times) and very pathetic AC LHR and FRA departure gates.
4) One of the worst baggage delivery wait times especially on int arrivals. (Almost rivalling the wait times I have to endure at YYZ)
Apart from the OP comments which I am sure are true, these are the other issues I have at YYC:
1) Terrible security line waits on the domestic and US side. (this prompted me to get NEXUS so we will see how that works out)
2) Awful waiting areas and restaurant choices on the US pre-cleared side.
3) Cramped AC domestic waiting areas, (at peak times) and very pathetic AC LHR and FRA departure gates.
4) One of the worst baggage delivery wait times especially on int arrivals. (Almost rivalling the wait times I have to endure at YYZ)
#23
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,648
The new terminal is long overdue.
Apart from the OP comments which I am sure are true, these are the other issues I have at YYC:
1) Terrible security line waits on the domestic and US side. (this prompted me to get NEXUS so we will see how that works out)
2) Awful waiting areas and restaurant choices on the US pre-cleared side.
3) Cramped AC domestic waiting areas, (at peak times) and very pathetic AC LHR and FRA departure gates.
4) One of the worst baggage delivery wait times especially on int arrivals. (Almost rivalling the wait times I have to endure at YYZ)
Apart from the OP comments which I am sure are true, these are the other issues I have at YYC:
1) Terrible security line waits on the domestic and US side. (this prompted me to get NEXUS so we will see how that works out)
2) Awful waiting areas and restaurant choices on the US pre-cleared side.
3) Cramped AC domestic waiting areas, (at peak times) and very pathetic AC LHR and FRA departure gates.
4) One of the worst baggage delivery wait times especially on int arrivals. (Almost rivalling the wait times I have to endure at YYZ)
Oh, and Starbucks.
#24
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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#26
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Adding these Basic Food Groups from the Lounge Food thread (just in case YYC wants to improve things):
#27
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Victoria BC
Programs: AC *50K MM; WS Platinum; Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 811
Edited to add the link: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trust...rity-line.html. My story is post #30.
Last edited by catgirl; Feb 4, 2015 at 10:54 pm
#28
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,237
Did 3 trans border flights through YYC , total gong show. Spent a night on one of them in YYC due to missed connection.
The common repeated comment ( tongue in cheek) those of us caught in the mess was " but it will all be fixed in 2016 "
it remains an embarrassing joke as far as an airport when it comes to trying to transit through.
The common repeated comment ( tongue in cheek) those of us caught in the mess was " but it will all be fixed in 2016 "
it remains an embarrassing joke as far as an airport when it comes to trying to transit through.
#29
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ
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As was pointed out to me by FT, I thought I'd share. NEXUS is a line meant for pre approved low risk travelers, not frequent travelers. However, I do completely agree with you. Either a) jack up the price for NEXUS or b) require those who have it (at least for air travel) to fly X segments per year. The fact that one only has to pay $50 is not enough. I, as you write in your post, feel the same way about those who have NEXUS slowing down the whole line. Infuriates me. I don't use this emoticon much, but comes to mind.
#30
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,804
As was pointed out to me by FT, I thought I'd share. NEXUS is a line meant for pre approved low risk travelers, not frequent travelers. However, I do completely agree with you. Either a) jack up the price for NEXUS or b) require those who have it (at least for air travel) to fly X segments per year. The fact that one only has to pay $50 is not enough. I, as you write in your post, feel the same way about those who have NEXUS slowing down the whole line. Infuriates me. I don't use this emoticon much, but comes to mind.
While on one hand I understand that there is no point in having one of the stations idle while the others have a line up, the proper way to handle this would be to have Nexus holders cutting in front of non-Nexus folks sent by CATSA to that line.
Not sure why apparently no one has come up with that simple idea.
Not totally convinced we need our own Taj Mahal, a la YVR or YYZ, just for the sake of half a dozen FFs from north of Red Deer.
Last edited by tcook052; Feb 5, 2015 at 10:04 am