Another new route: Announcing YYZ-DXB
Dec 10, 2014, 9:06 am
#121
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I wonder how AC can compete against EK 34 inch seat pitch in their A380 while Air Canada 789 aircraft used on YYZ-DXB route is one of the cramp airplanes in the industry for Y section seating:
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...figured-b787-9
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...figured-b787-9
Dec 10, 2014, 9:17 am
#122
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I wonder how AC can compete against EK 34 inch seat pitch in their A380 while Air Canada 789 aircraft used on YYZ-DXB route is one of the cramp airplanes in the industry for Y section seating:
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...figured-b787-9
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...figured-b787-9
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...irbus_A380.php
Dec 10, 2014, 9:18 am
#123
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I can't see how AC cannot be successful flying to the busiest international airport in the world with a much smaller airframe than it's competition for starters. They can add an additional three weekly frequencies at they're disposal, plus use a larger airframe if thing's go well.
Why are we so pessimistic when it comes to competition???
This route has so much potential for AC if you look at the bigger picture. Only a dummy would fail with this project.
Why are we so pessimistic when it comes to competition???
This route has so much potential for AC if you look at the bigger picture. Only a dummy would fail with this project.
Dec 10, 2014, 9:20 am
#124
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It's 32-34" on Emirates.... and it's likely to be 32" for almost all the seats.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...irbus_A380.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...irbus_A380.php
Dec 10, 2014, 9:24 am
#125
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Did you wonder how Air Transat could compete with the greater pitch, service and comfort of AC's 349-seat 77W TATL?
Dec 10, 2014, 9:31 am
#126
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Dec 10, 2014, 10:37 am
#127
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So, the battle for sought-after premium travellers will be AC's new J w/ feed from all over NA ti Dubai vs EK's J exYYZ to DXB and beyond.
Don't think this is as one-sided as you seem to believe
Dec 10, 2014, 10:40 am
#129
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"Emirates cutting first class from some of its A380s"
http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...380s-1.1424896
Long-haul first class air travel dwindling despite Etihad and Emirates
http://www.airportwatch.org.uk/2014/05/21589/
Dec 10, 2014, 11:18 am
#130
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That article is a little misleading. Only a few new airframe's will be delivered in two class configuration, non of the existing airframes will be changed.
I can only see this type being used to high density destinations like South East Asia, and KSA Haaj flights. YYZ will never see this type.
I can only see this type being used to high density destinations like South East Asia, and KSA Haaj flights. YYZ will never see this type.
Dec 10, 2014, 11:26 am
#132
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That article is a little misleading. Only a few new airframe's will be delivered in two class configuration, non of the existing airframes will be changed. I can only see this type being used to high density destinations like South East Asia, and KSA Haaj flights. YYZ will never see this type.
Dec 10, 2014, 11:32 am
#133
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Also would like to mention that l would be more than happy flying on AC's Dreamliner back to Canada after a few months in the UAE.
I can say this for a lot of my friends also that you become home sick when in the UAE after a while, and l know once l step into AC's aircraft in DXB my Canadian experience starts there. I have a Canadian crew, food, atmosphere, etc, etc.
I could not care what food EK offer me on they're flight because l have that every day here in Dubai. I can watch movies on my tablet also. AC in DXB means home to me, l know my Canadian friends would think the same, not to mention seeing the Maple Leaf on the tail parked at DXB.
My two cents.
I can say this for a lot of my friends also that you become home sick when in the UAE after a while, and l know once l step into AC's aircraft in DXB my Canadian experience starts there. I have a Canadian crew, food, atmosphere, etc, etc.
I could not care what food EK offer me on they're flight because l have that every day here in Dubai. I can watch movies on my tablet also. AC in DXB means home to me, l know my Canadian friends would think the same, not to mention seeing the Maple Leaf on the tail parked at DXB.
My two cents.
Dec 10, 2014, 11:49 am
#134
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For now.
Dec 10, 2014, 12:02 pm
#135
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I would think after India, its probably one the first to be operated with a 2 class higher density configuration.